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Remember the 1980s and 1990s and all things Gen-X. Take a stroll down memory lane, drink from a hose, and ride until the street lights come on. We discuss the past, present, and future of the forgotten generation. From music to movies and television, to the generational trauma we all experienced we talk about it all. Take a break from today and travel back to the long hot summer days of nostalgia. Come on slackers, fuck around and find out with us!
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Sincerely Yours, The Breakfast Club
What happens when two best friends dissect one of the most influential teen films ever made? As The Breakfast Club approaches its 40th anniversary, we're unpacking why this quintessential Gen X movie still resonates with audiences of all generations.
Through our own vastly different high school experiences – one as a popular student who "just got along with everybody" and one who felt like a perpetual outsider – we explore how John Hughes captured the universal teenage experience of being labeled and struggling to break free from those confining stereotypes. Can anyone really be reduced to just a brain, an athlete, a basket case, a princess, or a criminal?
The conversation veers from hilarious personal stories (including an embarrassing high school "makeover" punishment that eerily mirrored Ally Sheedy's character transformation) to thoughtful analysis of the film's treatment of social hierarchies, identity, and authenticity. While acknowledging some problematic elements through a modern lens, we celebrate how The Breakfast Club validated the complex inner lives of teenagers at a time when few films took them seriously.
Whether you identify with Judd Nelson's rebellious criminal, Molly Ringwald's popular princess, or Ally Sheedy's eccentric basket case (or a combination of all three), this nostalgic deep dive will remind you why Monday morning might change everything – or nothing at all. Join us for this celebration of the film that dared to ask: beneath our carefully constructed facades, aren't we all just trying to figure out who we really are? #genx #90s #80s #johnhughs
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Speaker 1:Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for, by and about Gen X. I'm Nicole and this is my BFFF, heather. Hello, how was your week?
Speaker 2:I don't think I did anything. No, because my back was still hurting, so I didn't. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Later I didn't do anything important that I can even recall what I did this week, so it must not have been important. But what about you?
Speaker 1:I went to a wedding on Saturday. Lovely it was lovely.
Speaker 1:It was a little wedding, lovely. It was lovely. It was a little wedding. A lady that I know through work and I went with a friend of mine who is also friends with this lady. It was so sweet and just so quaint and it was in a little church with all the glass windows and all that stuff stained glass windows, but it was Episcopalian. So I've never been to an Episcopalian church with all the glass windows and all that stuff, stained glass windows, but it was Episcopalian. So I've never been to an Episcopalian wedding. Are they different? Somehow they are. So I grew up in the Methodist church. Yes, and so this, first of all, this wedding was much longer. The bride and groom spend a lot of time sitting down. That doesn't seem fair. I mean, it was like an hour long and somebody said that was a short one.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it's like a Catholic wedding? Yes, because they're like forever.
Speaker 1:And apparently Episcopalians branched off from Catholicism. It's all the same crap, I know, because some of it was very ritualistic they actually had wafers and wine. No yeah, no, no, thanks the real ones. So there was a female priest, so I don't think they called them priestesses in the church.
Speaker 2:I don't think they did.
Speaker 1:They did call her mother, though, which my friend was raised Episcopalian. She said that the Episcopalian church has always been pretty open to female priests, but she had never heard one be called mother before. That's kind of weird. Yeah, but it is father.
Speaker 2:Good point. So I mean it does. And the nuns are mother right. Yeah, mother, good point so I mean, and when the nuns are mother right, yeah, and sister like the because mother theresa was a mother right, but then the rest of them are sisters, I don't know I, I can't even pretend to know what I'm even talking about here.
Speaker 1:But um, oh yeah, when they did communion she said um, so when that point comes, there's this whole big prayer that has to be said, and then the bride and groom come up first and they kneel and they take communion, and then you're escorted up if people want to go up and take communion with them.
Speaker 2:But the bride and groom have to. She just made a really weird face. I just did my shot of fireball the end and her eyes are watering now, go on Anyway.
Speaker 1:But the bride and groom have to stay knelt while everybody comes up and takes communion. So Do they get to wear knee pads? Well, they were on a pillow, but Still yeah. So you come up. And she said you know, if you are a baptized Christian, you're allowed to come up. And first of all I was like I am a baptized Christian, but that is so judgmental to not let people come up because they're not baptized.
Speaker 2:What if they want to take communion? So anyway, I mean, why would you want to? It's gross.
Speaker 1:Exactly. What if they want to take communion? So, anyway, I mean, why would you want to? It's gross, exactly. And then she was like so, but if you don't want to take communion? Because after you take communion then they want you to go over and lay your hands on the husband and wife, like whatever that is. And then they, so they wanted everyone to come up. So she said that if you didn't want to take communion, you could do this, which I'm motioning across my chest with my arms, and then she would say a blessing on you, what if you didn't want that either? I know.
Speaker 1:So I'm like in a panic in the middle of the church, like what am I going to do? Because I was raised in the church, I have my reasons for why I am no longer in the church and I feel like I have a very good understanding. I left it as an adult, so I know what I'm doing. So I know how to be polite. I did all the gestures and I even accidentally said and also with you once just because it just falls off the tongue so fast and easy.
Speaker 1:But I don't pray, I don't say amen, I don't do any of that. But I'm respectful, I nod my head and you know, um, I just feel like it's blasphemous for me to stand there and do that when I agree. I don't believe it and I think it's more respectful for me to not not do it.
Speaker 1:That's how I feel, right, so um, so anyway, um, luckily it starts and there are people that are not going up and I'm like, oh, thank God, that's an option. So I just didn't go up. So that was fine. But yeah, it was very neat, though I'm always into those kinds of things. I love religion and I love symbolism and things like that of it. So it was very, very pretty I I it was kind of neat being in church again and like in a weird way, um, but it was fun. So, like this. This was a older couple, Um so, um, their aunts. There were three aunts that were there, their aunts. There were three aunts that were there which were older ladies, I would say I don't want to say in case I get it wrong, but anyway, they were called the fire aunts and they were all dressed in red shiny dresses. They chose their own and they all had little red tiaras and instead of like flower.
Speaker 2:Mental note to my niece and nephew I wish to be called fire ant from now on.
Speaker 1:Yes, and instead of a flower girl, the fire ants came up the aisle and handed out fireballs to everybody. It was really, really cute.
Speaker 2:I don't want to go that far, but I do wish to be called fire ant Dress all in red. I don't know about that either.
Speaker 1:All right, you could go get that red wedding dress that you tried on. Did I try a red one on? Oh, I have a picture.
Speaker 2:I thought it was pink. I don't think I had a red one on. I'm pretty sure it was red Okay.
Speaker 1:I'll check later, okay, but anyway, yeah, and then. So that was that Lovely, lovely reception.
Speaker 2:Super cute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lots of really sweet, sweet moments. I really really like this lady. She's just one of the kindest people you'll ever meet and she just grinned ear to ear all day.
Speaker 2:So it was fun, nice. Yeah, I hate weddings. Yeah, I know you do. I don't like getting dressed up. I don't like going to a church. I think your daughter was the last time I went to a wedding.
Speaker 1:At least I wasn't in a church it was not, thankfully.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know. I've been to Catholic weddings. My godson is Catholic and his wife is Catholic Very.
Speaker 1:Italian Catholic. Italian Catholic, very yes, italian Catholic.
Speaker 2:Italian Catholic. Yes, so that's it, guys. That's it, we're done. Bye See ya. Well, it was not a good week for me because I didn't do anything, so I don't work. We'll just say work, the post office is plenty.
Speaker 1:So, while you have it, huh, while you have it anyway, that's what I said Don't tell Elon.
Speaker 2:Anyway. So today I gave Nicole homework and so I'm giving all of you homework. Stop right now. If you haven't watched the Breakfast Club in a while, go watch it and then come back. Okay, we'll give you a minute. So let's fuck around and find out about the Breakfast Club. My sources are imbdcom and screenrantcom and there's a couple other ones that are listed down further. Okay, amongst the they were like magazines and stuff, so I'm gonna start with just a general overview. Real quick synopsis. Um, y'all should remember the breakfast club. I mean, your gen x is probably like one of the most Gen X movies.
Speaker 1:It really is like I had. I know I've seen it, but it I barely remembered any of it and I literally finished watching it right before she got here today. I gave her this homework five days ago. I am a master procrastinator. I do my best work at the last minute, so now it's all super fresh in my head. But yeah, getting back to what you were saying, so, gen X, I was like holy shit, pretty much.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, because it said 85. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:You probably just hit the wrong key, maybe.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm just a liar, I don't know, but it's been 40 years. Five students at Shermer High School in Shermer, illinois reported for an all-day detention socially awkward brian johnson, anthony michael hall, jock andrew clark, emilio estevez shy, loner, allison reynolds, ali sheedy, popular girl claire standish, molly ringwald and rebellious delinquent john bender, judd nelson, uh. They gather in the school library and meet with their vice principal, richard vernon, who warns them not to talk or move from their seats and assigns each of them the task of writing a thousand-word essay describing who you think you are. Who do you think you are? Bender ignores the rules and spends this time antagonizing the other and defying Vernon, who gives him eight additional weekends of detention. The students sneak off to retrieve Bender's marijuana stash from his locker. When they see Vernon returning to the library, bender deliberately gets caught to allow the others to sneak back in, locked in a storage closet as punishment. Bender is berated by vernon even further, who tells him that he wants bender to prove how tough he is, and is offered a chance to punch vernon, but fails to act. He soon escapes into the ceiling panels and falls into the library where the others are the students.
Speaker 2:Students pass the time arguing, listening to music smoking pot, gradually opening up about their home lives and their reasons for being in detention. Despite their differences, the students realize they all face similar problems. Andrew and Allison bond over their complex relationships with their parents. Brian and Claire each feel anxiety over being a virgin. Still, the group suspects that their new friendship will end once detention is over. Meanwhile, vernon complains to the janitor, carl, that students have become less disciplined and more arrogant compared to the ones he had when he was a teacher. But Carl suggests that Vernon is the one who has changed and cares too much about what the students think of him. The others convince Brian to complete Vernon's essay on the group's behalf. Claire gives Allison a makeover which sparks romantic interest from Andrew, and Bender crawls back to the closet where Claire challenges her pristine reputation by kissing him. As the students part ways. Allison and Andrew kiss and she rips the state championship patch off his letterman jacket to keep. Claire gives Bender one of her diamond earrings and they share their own kiss. Vernon reads Brian's essay, which asserts that the vice principal has made petty assumptions about all of them, and Bender walks home across the school's football field and raises his fist triumphantly as he leaves.
Speaker 2:So in February, the film debuted at number three at the box office, behind Beverly Hills Cop and Witness, grossing $45 million domestically and $51 million worldwide. The film was a box office success given its $1 million budget. At first, hughes was turned down by Universal who couldn't see the appeal of the stripped-down brutal honesty of the characters. I'll get to the fun facts in a minute, but what I wanted to do also, so here we go. So what they reveal is Claire's popularity subjects her to intense peer pressure, while her bickering parents use her against each other. She receives detention for skipping school to go shopping.
Speaker 2:Bender reveals the physical abuse he and his mother suffer at the hands of his father, including cigar burns, as well as other injuries he has sustained from his father physically abusing him. He is serving detention for pulling a false fire alarm. Andrew becomes influenced by jock culture and is intimidated by his father to succeed in wrestling. He was given detention for taping a student's butt together in an attempt to win both his teammate and his father's approval. Brian is under so much academic pressure from his parents to get good grades that he contemplates suicide. After getting an F in shot class, he was sent to detention for bringing a flare gun to school. Allison is compulsively dishonest, with neglectful parents consistently stealing things to use, should she ever run away from home. She admits that she showed up to detention for lack of anything better to do so what I thought we would do with this episode is Nicole and I had very different experiences in high school.
Speaker 1:I of course identify with the Ally Shewald character, except I was not a princess, right, I was fairly popular, I just got along with everybody. I wouldn't say I was popular, I just got along with everyone, right everyone right um and I was smart and in all the clubs and um tried to do the right thing and I participated in nothing I wanted out of high school.
Speaker 2:Super bad, it was a um, it was not a good time for me. Well, I mean, I think maybe like my, the Ally Sheedy character and the Anthony Michael Hall probably a combination of those Because, surprise, I've always been suicidal. It's funny because one of my, one of the people in my high school, did our senior year. He was big into making plays and stuff like that, so he did like a short. I'm not sure if it was like a short story or if it was meant to be like a play. It was a short story. We'll go with that.
Speaker 2:And the only thing I really remember from it I don't remember what anybody. I only graduated with 20 fucking people, so you'd think I'd be able to remember what all 20 of them were doing. But, um, mine was that I would, in my um, after I left high school and grew up and was a grown-up, would run the suicide hotline. Yeah, if that tells you anything about who I was in high school, not, a whole lot has changed. Oh my, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think the main reason I really identify with the Ally Sheedy Karen A I'm weird and B we listen to the same music and I never felt like I fit in anywhere until I was like 16. And I met our mutual friend and she started taking me to rehoboth and we started hanging out with the, the gay kids and the, the goth kids and stuff. Then I really felt like seen, but up until then I did. I mean I know it's stupid to say and, as an older sibling, once that baby comes along, you, especially when you're the oldest of everything, the first grandchild, the first niece, the first everything, and then you go five years of being that and then one day you're not anymore and no one gives a shit what you do anymore.
Speaker 2:I mean I literally ran rampant around the town with no. Nobody to this day has any idea where I even was. So Right. And then, as I got older, I just we were always poorer than everybody else in school because they were all business owners and you know, the wealthiest of the wealthy in our small. They were very big fish and very small pond. So I could never keep up with that.
Speaker 1:We never could keep up with that, so I gave up on being cool yeah, I did have issues with that too, like my mom wouldn't buy me name brand stuff I had a pair of jams in like sixth grade.
Speaker 2:I had a pair of jimmy z's, and the other problem too was I was always heavier, so trying to fit into those clothes, because I don't know if you remember the 80s, but the 80s was not kind to plus size at all so, especially because I think all that stuff was menswear too, and I'm not built to wear menswear I got a big, big old ass. I got big old hips and. I got size for days. I just couldn't fit into men's stuff.
Speaker 2:So, there was no way I was going to be trendy. So then I learned that the color black lets you blend in. I have not turned around since then. Currently, I'm decked to the nines in black today. Today so yeah, my high school experience was not the best until I left, and I did not go back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I loved high school. I had great friends All people that I still consider friends that well, a lot because of social media, yeah, but we also are just like a really great eclectic group, like we all. Just I don't know, it's neat.
Speaker 2:Well, it's funny because when Facebook came around and you know, you start finding everybody from high school and I started friending a lot of people that I went to high school with just I don't have any idea why, but but well, some of them I like kind of wanted to be friends with, but I never was, just because I just I am not good at making other people have to make friends for me. Yes, so, yes, um, I've gotten better at that, by the way you have. So it was funny because when I started with Facebook and I started becoming friends with these people on Facebook, a lot of the people that probably would have been friends with me in high school were like, oh shit, I didn't even know you were into that, like you could have, like especially the Star Trek, I think the Star Trek thing like none of them knew I was a nerd, none of them.
Speaker 1:They just were blown away, I think one time I posted about the kobayashi maru and they were like I had no idea.
Speaker 2:I was like, yeah, watched every episode. I don't, so I you know, I think I think that was. I think things would have probably been better if I had just been a little more open well plus, I really like spending time by myself that's the other problem. Like I really don't like people. I know it's really hard, yeah, especially at my job these days it's exhausting from having to speak to people all day long, like not my co-workers. I like my co-workers, but like strangers on the street.
Speaker 1:It's just like I don't that sounds horrible when you tell me people come up to the mail truck or like come out to talk to you. Oh, my god, today, and if I have to say like.
Speaker 2:Do you know how many times you have to talk about the goddamn weather in a day? Oh my God, that's all. Because that's all people do is small talk, and so you hear the same fucking thing over and over.
Speaker 1:That's why I avoid people in public. It's not because I'm like scared to see someone. It's I hate small talk. It's oh, how are you how so? And so Blah, blah, blah. The weather's pretty crazy today, yeah, crazy weather.
Speaker 2:It's going to be much warmer tomorrow.
Speaker 1:How about this wind? And it's like? I know? I've heard this 46 times today.
Speaker 2:There's only so many different ways and then so then you just get down to like a almost a script that you say every day, yeah, this is the same people and you know whatever. So that's, I think, why I. I think I'm more of a mix of like um, the anthony michael hall and the ali sheedy characters I could see that and, of course, judd nelson I always had a crush on judd nelson so you know, there's no surprise there, yeah I like, I like the bad boys.
Speaker 1:He was very cute.
Speaker 2:Yes, I like the skater boys.
Speaker 1:Skater boys and Emilio Estevez is just so funny Like the 80s dancing in that movie, like was when they're running down the halls and flinging their arms.
Speaker 2:When Molly Ringwald does the dance.
Speaker 1:Yes, at the top of the stairs.
Speaker 2:Molly Ringwald does the dance yes. That's so the top of the stairs. Like when you think quintessential 80s dance First of all. When you think quintessential 80s, you think Molly Ringwald, yes, period. Like she is the queen of the 80s. That is true, like you, just anyway. And her doing that dance was just everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what is it with the musical montages?
Speaker 2:in the 80s movies.
Speaker 1:I don't know like it's so fun. They're playing the same song and all these completely different kids are just running down the hall doing these dances. But it was like that in every fucking movie like they all had it.
Speaker 2:Apparently we like to dance in the 80s. Well, yeah, I mean we, we had all those dance shows on TV. Yes, like American Bandstand and it was illegal.
Speaker 1:in Footloose it was illegal in Footloose.
Speaker 2:Fun fact, it was also illegal in. Fenwick for a little while. Wow, yeah, no, dancing in public, it was weird, it was a giant joke amongst everyone.
Speaker 1:By the way, footloose is a really awesome movie too.
Speaker 2:It's okay, it's not one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:It's one of my favorites. I just watched it not that long ago and I'm a huge John Lithgow fan, so that helps too.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know what it is about Footloose, that's too much dancing.
Speaker 1:It is super cheesy.
Speaker 2:I think that I don't know. Well, it's too much. It is super cheesy, it's? I think that I don't know. I like it, you do like cheesy, I do like cheesy. I'll tell you what my favorite, all-time hands down favorite 80s movie of all time is fucking pretty in pink. I can watch pretty in pink every day forever. I love ducky, number one, number one. I love ducky and number two when she makes that. I wanted to make a dress so bad I cannot sew for shit. I have tried numerous times. I can make a pillow and that is the extent of my sewing ability but man, I wanted to make I just I.
Speaker 2:I know everybody else jokes about how horrible her dress. I fucking love that dress. I love the little thing on her neck. I just loved it. I really like Molly Ringwald number one. I couldn't tell.
Speaker 1:I do, I love, I love, I don't know and it's I love. I don't know what it is, I don't know if it was like a, because she was always the popular girl, but in Pretty, in Pink, she's weird oh, that's what I wanted to say earlier is that while I mostly related to the Molly Ringwald character, my favorite character was the Ally Sheedy character, which is funny because you're my best friend. So, she was actually the one I liked better. I thought Molly was a little obnoxious sometimes.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, that's Right and she was supposed to be yeah, that's the whole Because she was John Hughes' muse. Most of his movies are because of her, like she. Yeah, he said it many times that Molly Ringwald was who he made movies for it's. I don't know the, the Emilio Estevez. I know people like Emilio, I know that person and they're all the same and you know there's something behind it.
Speaker 1:It's usually an asshole dad.
Speaker 2:Yes, and if it's a female version of that, it's an asshole mom who wanted to be in beauty pageants and never could. Wanted to be a cheerleader. Wanted to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 1:Wanted to be a cheerleader and never could.
Speaker 2:It's the same person.
Speaker 1:I always think that when I see athletes they talk about how great they are, especially high school age, some college kids. And I'm like man, I hope that kid's enjoying what he's doing. If he's enjoying it, that's fine.
Speaker 2:But my, my niece, is an athlete. Um how, I have no idea, because none of the rest of us are. I mean, my dad kind of is, but he thinks he is, but I mean he's definitely the most in shape of any of us at 70, however old he is he could whip all of our except for her all of our asses but she's a competitive gymnast um oh, I did.
Speaker 2:I did go to her one of her. That was a week before, never mind, that was a week before. Um, she is extremely competitive. None of the rest of us are I really, I really none of us really know where she came from, right? Um, if she didn't look like my sister, we would really think that she doesn't belong to us. No, I take that back. My niece is the perfect combination of Ally Sheedy and Emilio Estevez. The kid is fucking weird, just straight out weird. I got her, I commissioned, I gave it to her last weekend. It was the best I commissioned. You can get a taxidermy mouse and have it made however you want it.
Speaker 2:So I commissioned it in her gymnastics leotard and it's on the floor like a floor mat and I was so excited about it and my sister was like that's the fucking grossest thing I've ever seen, which is weird because they have deer heads in their house, right and my brother-in-law was like that's kind of creepy. And I don't know if it's just because you dressed it up, I don't know, but I have one. Well, at least the whole body's there, it's not just a head, right. I'm just doing something. Um, I have one that has like glasses on it's reading a newspaper and I named it archibald.
Speaker 2:So I was like I'm gonna get her this. And I kept texting my sister. I'd already paid for it and it was coming, so it really didn't matter what she thought. But I was like well, do you think she's gonna like it? And she was like I mean, I guess I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. So I hadn't heard from her. Um, I didn't see her get it because she had, it was after her meet and she was going to bowling with her team or whatever. And um, so the next day I hadn't heard from her and I was like I texted my sister and I was like did she not like that? Or she was like she didn't, she didn't text you. And I was like no, and she was like god damn it. She was like she loved it and then she sent back I mean, she capital L-O-V-E-D it.
Speaker 2:I was like I knew it Kid's a weirdo, but she's her driving force. She's her own. Like my sister punishes her by taking her away from her gymnastics, like that's her punishment.
Speaker 1:Right, and that's what I mean is like she loves it, like eats, yeah, and so I'm good with that, like that's her passion. She broke her. I wish I would have ever felt like I know that about anything she broke her elbow and had to have.
Speaker 2:She broke it like three or four times and she had to have surgery on it because, um, obviously, gymnastics stopped you from growing and um so she's small um, so she broke her elbow. She had to have surgery. None of you care, but I'm just gonna tell you she had a this is.
Speaker 2:This is the kind of bitch that she is. She broke her elbow. She had to have surgery. She had to take some, a lot of time off. She was very upset. She worked the entire time to get herself back in. She had a competition um, and she wasn't allowed to do the vault the. The doctor said that's. The only thing she couldn't do is because it put too much pressure on her elbow. And so her first competition back. She did not do it, and the way you forfeit is you walk you know how they run, and then they sit and then they hit the vault.
Speaker 2:So when you forfeit you walk down there and you touch the vault and you do it twice and that's forfeiting. So she forfeited the first competition and then she came home and she was upset because you know your overall score is all four events together and she has to have a trophy or she's gonna die, I guess I don't know um, she's very upset.
Speaker 2:She told my sister what happens if I just do it. My sister was like do not, do not do it. So her next competition she goes down, touches the vault, walks back up and then just runs and does it and scored a 9.3 so my sister was like what am I supposed to do? Yeah, what am I supposed to do Exactly? She's 16. What?
Speaker 1:am I going to do?
Speaker 2:So anyway that's. I guess you can mix two things at once. She wants to be now, she wants to do forensics in the FBI.
Speaker 1:I could see that Mm-hmm. So yeah, yeah, so that does make sense that she would be so, with amelia west of us and ali sheedy kissing at the end, that's her. I felt like that was a little bit far-fetched, but now it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2:I always thought it was perfect, and let's also start. Let's yes, we talked about this before the whole makeover of ali sheedy terrible, it was horrible she was so much prettier before molly ringwald did her makeup. I don't know if I put it in here or not. Um one of the fun facts I think it was she hated that. She did not want to do that. She thought it was a terrible idea.
Speaker 2:She didn't like it was she didn't like the message it sent. She, they said the whole point of it was that he could see her Like she wasn't hiding, but she wasn't being herself either. Yeah.
Speaker 1:She actually was hiding when she put that on, because that wasn't who she was.
Speaker 2:That is exactly what I'm trying to say. Look, I can put on regular clothes. I can not wear skulls. I wear skulls all the time I can put on. I do like pink. I can not wear skulls. I wear skulls all the time I can put on, I do like pink.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2:Pink is my second favorite color, but I can wear like baby pink or like baby blue or I can wear all these things. I feel so uncomfortable in my own skin when I wear that shit, like I feel like I'm standing out like a sore thumb. But when I have crazy ass colored hair and I'm wearing all black or I have skulls all over me or you know I'm I don't feel like I'm staying. Obviously I probably stand out more when I'm wearing all that. But I mean, I used to wear the chains and all of it and I never felt like I stood out. And then, as soon as you put me in like a regular people stuff, I feel like I'm like so self-conscious and I feel like I can't breathe Because it's not who you are. It's not Right. My senior year we had this horrible thing at school they don't do it anymore, god but seniors got auctioned off and you had to be a slave for a day.
Speaker 1:Wow, private school yeah, so you had to be the slave for the day and everything went to um the prom.
Speaker 2:No, I don't actually have any idea where that money went, to be honest. Anyway, the lower grades could, could buy you, and then you had, like they would make you wash their cars and carry their books all day, and it was like a big thing because then, you know, the freshmen could buy a senior, and were they?
Speaker 1:allowed to whip you no and rape the women?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I don't know. I didn't really read the rules. I was bought um by my friend. No, I was bought. I was sadly bought by one of my teachers, because that's how sad I didn't have any friends.
Speaker 2:She was like nobody's gonna buy her but what they did to me was probably the most like. I would have rather have washed your car or I don't know, stood by you while you ate Literally anything than what they actually did to me that day. I have never been more humiliated, and I know it's going to sound stupid and weird, but they had my, the girl that I spent summers with, that had the restaurant down the street. She was very girly and she went to church every Sunday. They were very religious, so they had her bring and it was like the most floral dress ever. It was like a fit and flare, like with the v in the front, like your typical, like church going dress, like with just flowers all over it. They curled my hair, they put makeup on me and that was my only punishment and that couldn't have been worse, like that was literally the worst punishment you could have done to me.
Speaker 1:oh my god, it was literally the ali sheedy thing yes, a hundred percent was they they did my hair. I wonder if they feel bad about that now I don't know.
Speaker 2:I'd have to ask them because that's horrible.
Speaker 1:It's telling you like yeah, we think you look ridiculous and you look really pretty if you do this.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I wore a fucking uniform. So it's not like I even wore my. I mean I did because, right, you wore your dog. I did. I stretched the rules a little bit um and I had shaved.
Speaker 1:I shaved my head and um and they were too scared of you to tell you not to dyed it black. There's rules now.
Speaker 2:Um so yeah, that's, and it was humiliating now that actually, now that you say that is exactly what they did and it was humiliating. Actually, now that you say that it's exactly what they did and it was humiliating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was awful. That's horrible. Yeah, absolutely horrible. Yeah, it did not sound ridiculous, that was nuts. What is wrong with people? I don't know. Because, I was watching, when I was watching the Breakfast Club and that teacher and I was like shoo, this shit wouldn't fly today. But I was like man, were they really that mean to us? And I was like, yeah, yeah, they were. Yeah, they actually were yeah.
Speaker 2:I had a teacher again. Well, I don't know what it was like in public school.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they could touch you at that point.
Speaker 2:We had to. Well, they were still allowed to beat you. Yeah, yeah, we had a teacher that threw chalk at your head all the time. Pretty, sure that they were physical yeah, and he picked up one kid in his desk, desk and all, and threw him out into the hallway.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that corporal punishment was alive and well oh yeah, um, and you know I guess a lot of it. You look back and you say, well, I mean, was it really that clicky? And because you know at the near the end of the movie that they talk about, well, what's going to happen on monday? Right, and that's exactly what I mean.
Speaker 1:And I love that conversation Like it was real and people don't do that.
Speaker 2:It's exactly what was going to happen.
Speaker 1:They were going to go right back to where they were because they were not ever going to be friends.
Speaker 2:It wasn't going to happen. Nope, nope.
Speaker 1:But the fact that they identified it, I thought.
Speaker 2:And said they felt shitty about it. But that was just the way it is Right Because you know. Then there's I don't know what it's like today with online bullying. I imagine it. You know I have mixed feelings about that, but that is what would happen then, you would pretend to be friends and then that would be it.
Speaker 1:I feel like those things happened in like little small pockets. Here and there You'd be in the same place with somebody, whether it was something because your parents were together, or a church or I don't know, just anything random where maybe you hung out and you had a good time together.
Speaker 2:But then the next day it was like it never happened, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I feel like I was in that situation at some point, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think I ever was. Maybe I don't think so, though, mostly because I avoided the people I went to school with like the fucking plague. Avoided the people I went to school with, like the fucking plague. Yeah, I mean when I, um, when I started driving unmade friends outside of school, I didn't ever turn back. So, um, I mean before that, like we would go to the movies all the time and you know, I don't know, I had crushes on the boys and they did not, because I wasn't the popular girl.
Speaker 2:You know, the popular girls would invite me to sleepovers just to be mean. And then I just stopped going, of course, because A, they had weird things for dinner. And I'm not down with that Like why the one time I I went, they had tuna fucking casserole. Who first of all makes teenage girls fucking tuna casserole? I love tuna casserole. Okay, you're nuts. They sat that shit down in front of me and I was like hold on, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 1:I mean that is a weird thing if your daughter's having friends over to make. Hold on. What the fuck is that? I mean that is a weird thing if your daughter's having friends over to make.
Speaker 2:Right, like you order pizza.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Janet made it and I loved it. You're weird, I love tuna though.
Speaker 2:I mean, I like tuna also, but I don't want things mixed. I don't like my things mixing.
Speaker 1:I'm not a casserole person as a general rule um, and I haven't had tuna casserole in probably 25 years. It's warm it's warm tuna but I'm not a casserole fan because I like to taste each food like I don't want it all put in a big pile together and cook together look, tuna casserole is weird.
Speaker 2:Okay, I like fresh tuna warm. I put my life on the line sometimes to eat fresh tuna, um, but I don't want it mixed in with pasta peas oh no, no.
Speaker 1:And the brown bread crumbs on top, oh no, no, no no no, yeah, seriously, I haven't had that stuff in forever, but I would eat. I would eat it like if somebody brought in here right now, I'd totally eat it you'd be on your own and I would have to hold my nose because that smells terrible because I know that we just ate right before we came on here, but cheese steaks, yeah, they were delicious cheese, steak sandwiches and fries, because my doctor doubled my thyroid medicine and my metabolism runs five million miles a minute.
Speaker 1:She was very hangry, so angry and now I'm getting hungry again. It's only like an hour since we ate, that's true oh well, it's so annoying yeah, it all lasts long, true, and we have cake for over, oh yeah we have cake we gotta go, guys.
Speaker 2:We have cake? Um, back to the break. Let's eat breakfast? Um. Of course, now when you watch it back, it is slightly problematic a little bit, but I feel like most of those movies are, and I know that the kids today want to cancel all that shit because most of it's problematic. It was a different time and you know I get it. But I have a real issue with trying to erase what has happened in the past. When you don't allow things like Huckleberry Finn and how things were in the 80s and 90s and like that, then you forget where we, how far we've come, how far we've come and how much further we have to go. Right, but like that happened, mm-hmm, but like that happened and we should acknowledge that that happened, that in movies we call people slurs and in movies it was no big deal and it's not cool. But if you erase all that, then you're bound to repeat it.
Speaker 1:Right, well, my favorite, one of my favorite sayings is Maya Angelou, and I'll probably chop it up but basically, do the best you can until you know better, and then do better, and that's what I feel like we did. You know, we learned that it's not okay to call somebody a fag, yeah, especially in a movie.
Speaker 2:So, um, so we don't do that anymore well, and I think it's the other thing about it is like, especially in this kind of a movie, the other part that's problematic. I'll get to it, which I think was completely unnecessary, but I think that part of it is. I think that just shows you how difficult it is. When they say what happens on Monday is when they say what happens on Monday because of all that. It would be very difficult because of the societal pressures surrounding everybody. And now we're all grown up and we can be like, oh, fuck that and fuck this and you know who cares. But back then you did care.
Speaker 1:Yep, and let's be perfectly honest, kids are still getting called fag in school right now.
Speaker 1:So let's not act like it happened in the 80s and it doesn't happen anymore. We just have learned that we don't put it in movies anymore, right, so at least not in that way. I mean, it still goes into movies if it's relevant to the plot, like I remember when I watched Pose, the series. Did you ever watch that on FX? No, it has Billy Porter, yes in it. Excellent, if you're ever looking for something to watch. I keep forgetting about that.
Speaker 1:It is so good, like I was just thinking about going back and watching it again because it is so good, and so, of course, slurs like that are used in that show because it's relevant to the content of the show.
Speaker 2:Right, well, I think that's just it with this. I feel like it is relevant to the content.
Speaker 1:It is because that's what high schoolers call each other that is what that is you were.
Speaker 2:the boys were especially afraid of being.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cast as gay. I even noticed at the end when Judd Nelson's character takes the ring from molly ringwald, it goes into the left ear. Yes, because if you wore one in your right ear back, then you were gay. You were gay and I don't even know where that ever came from and I wonder when the switch happened.
Speaker 2:You know when the switch happened in the 90s, when it was a rebellious thing that boys got both their ears pierced that was, oh my god.
Speaker 1:Speaking of the 90s, I have to tell you this funny story about a friend and boys with piercings. So we had a friend, used to have a friend, and he told us once that he got his belly button pierced in the 90s and, oh my god, we fucking died laughing and he's like what? It was a thing. Back then we were like no, no, dudes did. We were like it was never okay for guys to get belly button piercings.
Speaker 2:Nicole made me get my nose pierced. It hurt like a. That's why I still wear the damn thing, because it hurts so fucking bad. Then it didn't even hurt that bad, it hurt a lot.
Speaker 1:I didn't get mine done until like 10 years ago, but it didn't hurt that bad. It hurt that bad. I got my belly button done when I was 19 and I still have the same ring in it I do, I do have my belly button. I don't think I can get it off like I've tried just for shits and giggles, just to like try did you have it through?
Speaker 1:all three kids. Oh yeah, every time, every pregnancy, they'd be like you're gonna have to take that out eventually. I was like, okay, I will, and then I didn't. So I always waited for it to shoot across the room. It never did. But yeah, I have tried, just for fun to see, and I don't think well, you probably rusted shut at this point.
Speaker 2:You had your eyebrow pierced too I I didn't like. I'm not a fan of piercings yeah they hurt a lot.
Speaker 1:They do hurt a lot, and I don't like it like I have.
Speaker 2:I want them because I have. I don't like it Like I have. I want them because I have. I don't want facial period Like my nose is.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't mind getting the other side of my nose Eyebrow was a regret. Yeah, that one was and I still have a scar from it.
Speaker 2:I don't like the lip piercings, I don't like the cheek piercing.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's fine for other people but I don constantly like what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2:I never was a fan of the facial piercings, mostly because it hurts for like months it does. And a tattoo hurts for like the time you're getting it done and then maybe the next day, and then that is it yeah, yeah and it's then. It's there forever. It doesn't fling across the room. It's there forever, except for these on my finger. I keep losing those. But, um, so I I didn't notice, and so now I get my ears pierced because they stay and they don't hurt as bad, but it does.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, I don't it's funny too, because I'm terrified of needles like if I have to have blood drawn or get a shot. I like I turn my head and squeeze my eyes shut so tight like I'm gonna accidentally see it out of the back of my head I don't like getting shots, but like having my blood drawn.
Speaker 2:I like having my blood drawn because I like to watch it. Um, but I'm not a big fan of like the thought of getting a shot, just and, of course, every time you say that you're like, oh well, you're covered in. It's not the same fucking thing, it isn't. It's more like a piercing yeah, yes, it's different. I don't like it. I digress yeah, back to the movie. I did have some fun facts, or not so fun facts.
Speaker 1:Just facts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, stuff. According to casting director Jackie Birch, the original script went under the name the Lunch Bunch. Oh, I'm glad they changed it. That's, according to the Huffington Post, thanks to the son of one of Hughes' friends who attended North Trier High School in Northfield, illinois. The name was changed sometime because the students and staff there had created the designated breakfast club for early detentions. Hughes, having attended school in Illinois, gravitated towards the newer title, also a much better title than the lunch one. Yes, it's weird, terrible.
Speaker 2:New Trier would also play a prominent role in many other 80s teen dramas, serving as a shooting location for 16 Candles, ferris. Bueller's Day Off and Weird Science is Bueller's Day Off and Weird Science. In the spring of 85, new York magazine David Blum was asked to follow rising star Emilio Estevez for a profile. The article was supposed to focus on Estevez's career, but it gave birth to a new nickname. After Blum witnessed Estevez trying to get a free ticket to an 8 pm screening of Lady Hawk, he observed a sense of entitlement in the young actor. Blum would later observe that the same attitude in many other young stars, coining the term the Brat Pack.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Although Blum's umbrella term became synonymous with the group that included members such as Estavez, rob Lowe, judd Nelson and Molly Ringwaldwald, his origins really began with the breakfast club, which was the first film to star multiple members, as the only actors set on the set actually within the age group of their characters, 16 year olds anthony michael hall and molly ringwald reportedly became so inseparable during production that they briefly dated while shooting. The other cast members are already in their early 20s. By the time film commenced, both amelia estevez and ali sheedy were already 23 and judd nelson topped everyone at 24, which is also why I say parts of that are a little inappropriate. With him under the desk and like as much like now when you watch it, knowing that he was 24 and she was 16.
Speaker 1:Yes, a little and I'm sure she was uncomfortable. I can just hope he was also uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:I'm not so sure he was. Yeah, supposedly he was quite the troublemaker, oh yeah, at the time.
Speaker 1:Um, so that's you know see, those are the things that I think are more problematic than maybe some of the language or the way the teacher treated the kids, things like that. It's very sexual assaulty it is, and even the things that he says to her yes, even though it's a script, it's a script yeah Well, the movie was.
Speaker 2:A lot was improvised in that movie. It didn't say specifically what, but a lot of it. They said that they let them really, especially Judd Nelson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was kind of raunchy, yeah, and I but I one thing that I was surprised by was it's rated R. I was like why is this movie rated r? I mean, I don't know there's no nudity. There is not, maybe because they smoke pot, maybe I swear, though, like back then, if you said the f word once the movie was rated r oh yeah, well, and they do.
Speaker 2:they do say the f word a couple times. Okay, so that's probably from language.
Speaker 1:Now, PG-13, like people are having sex on screen. I know it's so, I don't get it. They're assuming parents are going to parent, so that's where they go wrong.
Speaker 2:Okay, but here's the thing Like I don't have a problem with the language issue, our mutual friend, her daughter, has always cussed. She's always fuck this, fuck that, and even when she was little, because that's how chris was, so everything was, and she simply told her these are at home words and you can't, don't say them in school, because other kids are not allowed to say them. And and and so she didn't right. You know there was an appropriate time. But my friend was like it's just a word, like and that's how I feel too.
Speaker 1:Like I was raised that I would have gotten my teeth knocked out if I had said it. My mother will still go after me with a wooden spoon. Oh, I still would not cuss in front of my mom, my sister does, and I like cringe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I'm waiting for her to get punched in the face Every time I accidentally drop one because you know my language has gotten a little spicier out in the open now.
Speaker 1:And I have the open now and, um, I have to. I'm always like, oh, my god, I'm so sorry, I don't know, I don't like that. I don't think I ever slip in front of my mom, but but it did teach me in a very abusive way, um, when it's appropriate to say it and when it's not, so I can easily turn it off and on, like I'm very, very good at that. Yes, but my kids. So I taught them that without, um, making it scary. I just you know they weren't allowed to cuss in front of me. They're the children and I'm the mom, and that that was how I did it, just because I wanted them to learn how to turn it off, because, like my husband, for example, was never taught and mine either will cuss in front of anyone anytime, and you're just like oh dear God, I know.
Speaker 2:He does it in front of my mom and dad and I'm like ugh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, she's going to hit you with a wooden spoon. Stop saying that. So I wanted them to learn. But now they're adults. And it's funny because last night was my son-in-law's birthday we were talking about that, right.
Speaker 1:So we were over there for dinner and my daughter particularly this daughter who's married to this son-in-law we were always afraid to cuss in front of her because she was so judgmental, like we wouldn't like do a lot of things in front of her, because we were like we don't want to make Kay mad at us because she is good and we're not, apparently, so anyway. So she's been cussing a lot more around me, which I'm totally fine with, like it's not, like I don't know you cuss, and now I can say fuck in front of you too. So good, we're all happy now. Problem solved.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we were at their house last night and they had all their friends over. So my husband and I are in the living room, obviously, you know, and the kids are all out in the, in the kitchen and my daughter is just fuck this, fuck that, fuck you, fuck the horse. She came in on Like and Jay's looking at me and he's like do you hear your daughter? Like she does that. Now, I don't know, it's just what she does. He's like it's so weird, you know and I think this.
Speaker 2:It's much more socially acceptable now, like you hear it all the time. Now I'm like when we were growing up, like you did not, and if it was an r-rated movie like you said, yes, but it was like a shock to your system when you heard and if someone did say it, they were a bad person yes like they had no class.
Speaker 2:And I grew up in restaurants, so of course I heard it all the time. I mean like there is no dirtier, raunchier, worse place in the whole world than the kitchen of a restaurant. Yes, there is no filters, there's no sexual harassment. That's all allowed in the kitchen of a restaurant.
Speaker 1:Yes, so you don't like it, you're in the wrong town.
Speaker 2:You are in the wrong, like there is no hr.
Speaker 1:No no, you just get drug out back and beat up.
Speaker 2:Then you end up in the walking crying because everybody made fun of you. Um, so it's it was. It was weird for me because it was shocking to hear outside of that situation and I think I've heard my dad say it like twice and I know for a fact that he says it a lot when we're not around, so he tempers what he says too.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've never heard my dad. My dad just thinks it's so trashy when people like he's very proper, which he doesn't look proper because he just likes his sweatsuits and you know, and his t-shirts and but he very well-mannered, very strict raise, raising up very, very etiquette.
Speaker 2:My dad apparently when he gets around just the boys he cusses. But when he's around I promise you my dad doesn't. That's crazy like because because my husband has said your dad just fucks this, fuck that, and I'm like really, because I've only ever heard him say once and it was because I made him that angry I was the troubled teenager.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fun fact. Oh, this one I thought was funny too. Judd Nelson said Anthony Michael Hall had a surprising growth spurt during shooting. According to commentary on the 30th anniversary edition of the filmelson remembered being two inches taller than hall during auditions and a half inch taller during rehearsals. Sometime during shoot, a shooting hall had outgrown nelson, who jokingly stated that he began writing letters to geneticists. Um, according to both molly ringwald and ali sheedy, the original script had a porky style scene in which the boys sneak off to peek in on the high school synchronized swim team, stumbling upon a topless pe teacher along the way. Um, but the actresses both confronted hughes about the misogynistic sequence, he listened and cut it from the movie altogether.
Speaker 1:So apparently, it was even more problematic then. Yeah.
Speaker 2:While crawling his way through the air duct, bender entertains himself by remembering a joke about a blonde, a poodle and a six-foot salami, but before he can deliver the punchline, he abruptly falls through the ceiling. Since the joke was never in the script, it has remained unfinished, though many reddit users have tried their hand at giving it a proper ending.
Speaker 2:yeah, but judd nelson has never given a punchline probably left better unsaid, I mean that yeah a go-to guy for hollywood soundtracks, ke churned out some of the most notable songs for 80s movies Approached by the studio. To write the Breakfast Club soundtrack, forsey spent time watching the actors on set before committing. Inspired by the scene in which Brian asked the group if they'll still be friends after detention, forsey wrote the new iconic song Don't.
Speaker 1:You Forget.
Speaker 2:About Me. Originally, Brian Ferry of Roxy Music was approached to sing it before Billy Idol, who later recorded his own version. I don't think I've ever heard the Billy Idol version. Luckily, an offer to Chrissy Hine of the pretenders would lead to the recommendation of simple minds frontman jim care care heinz. Husband. Simple minds would agree to the song, though initially there was hesitation over the band not writing their own lyrics.
Speaker 2:Um this, this, this is a real fun fact this one was my favorite fun fact as the second reoccurring adult figure of the film, john Kapelis only had two scenes as Carl the janitor. While Kapelis would have little screen time, he took his role seriously, leading to a feud between him and star Emilio Estevez. According to Kapelis, the bad blood between the two began when he was trying to film a scene while estevez and nelson were trying to make him laugh, angered by their lack of seriousness. He referenced the real life heart attack of actor martin sheen while shooting apocalypse. Now capitalist told the pair that they would have been great on the set of apocalypse now during the time of martin sheen's heart attack. Well, would have had fun watching him wince in pain as they goofed around.
Speaker 2:Unbeknownst to him, estevez was sheen's son making the rest of their time together very uncomfortable for both I thought that when I read that I was like oh shit how do you fucking not know right? That's what I was thinking I mean I guess he knew about char Sheen, but I don't know how you didn't know. I mean, I guess because they didn't share a last name, I don't know, but he looks exactly like his father.
Speaker 1:And his brother.
Speaker 2:Yes, John Hughes wrote or directed some of the most influential movies of the 80s and 90s Sixteen Candles, the Breakfast Club, ferris Bueller's Day Off, pretty in Pink, some Kind of Wonderful Weird Science. Other notable films that he either wrote, directed or produced Mr Mom, national Lampoon's Vacation Planes, trains and Automobiles, home Alone, home Alone 2,. Uncle Buck, she's Having a Baby. On the morning of August 6, 2009, hughes was taking a walk close to his hotel on West 55th Street in Manhattan when he suffered a heart attack. He was rushed to Roosevelt Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at age 59.
Speaker 1:Damn, I didn't realize it was that long ago. I didn't either.
Speaker 2:Jeez, I remember him dying, but I know time really is smooth.
Speaker 1:Time is so weird, it's crazy right when you get old, it's so weird.
Speaker 2:The pilot episode of the nbc comedy community broadcast on september 17th 2009 was dedicated to hughes. The episode included several references to the breakfast club and ended with a cover of don't you forget about me I love that show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2:The one tree hill episode titled don't you forget about me, broadcast on february 1st 2010, ended with a scene similar to the ending of 16 Candles. It also contained references to other Hughes movies, such as Home Alone. The 2011 Bob's Burgers episode, sheesh Cab. Bob also paid homage to 16 Candles. The teen comedy, easy A, starring Emma Stone, paid tribute to Hughes and his films at the very end, where Stone's character states she wishes her life were a John Hughes movie by showing various clips of Sixteen Candles, the Breakfast Club and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. While primarily satirizing later 90s teen comedies, the parody film Not Another Teen Movie references a number of John Hughes 80s films, including Sixteen Candles, breakfast Club and Pretty in Pink, and is set at a fictitional John Hughes high school, which I never really paid attention to, in that I've seen that movie and I never.
Speaker 2:After Hughes' death, many of those who knew him commented on the impact Hughes had on their lives and on the film industry. Molly Ringwald said I was stunned and incredibly sad to hear about the death of John Hughes. He was, and will always be, such an important part of my life. He will be missed by me and by everyone that he has touched my heart and all my thoughts are with his family. Now Matthew Broderick also released his own statement saying I am truly shocked and saddened by the news about my old friend, john Hughes. He was a wonderful, very talented guy and my heart goes out to his family. The 82nd Academy Award included a tribute to Hughes' work. A retrospective of clips from Hughes' films was followed by cast members from several of them, including Molly Ringwald, matthew Broderick, macaulay Culkin, judd Nelson, ali Sheedy, anthony Michael Hall and John Cryer gathering on stage to commemorate Hughes and his contributions to the film industry. And I think without John Hughes, the 80s would not have been. Oh god, no, I mean, you can't live without those movies like every movie.
Speaker 1:You said I mean, they're all icons yeah, if you told me to name an 80s movie, I would name a John Hughes movie. If you gave me 10 or 15 to list, I would name all John Hughes movies. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:I know wow that's awesome so yeah, that's the breakfast club. I don't know if we covered it all, but it's a good movie. Go back and watch it it is it is.
Speaker 2:I thoroughly enjoyed it today, yeah um, if you were curious and just didn't go back and watch the movie, like I fucking told you to in the beginning, the? Um, the essay is dear. Mr vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole saturday in detention for whatever it was. We did wrong, but we were thinking. But we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us, in the simplest terms and the most convenient definitions, but what? But? What we found out is that each one of us is a brain and an athlete and a basket case, a princess and a criminal. Does that answer your question sincerely?
Speaker 2:yours, the breakfast club no, and I think that's a hunt, I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's a great thing for any teacher to hear. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We're all those things, exactly, each one of us.
Speaker 1:And don't make assumptions about any of us.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It's just who you choose to present yourself as. Exactly or who you were chosen, Right To present yourself. But we all have. We're all weird in our own way.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. We right to present yourself, but we all have. We're all weird in our own way absolutely, we're all freaks. Absolutely some of us a little bit let that freak flag, and the more you try to hide that shit, the worse you are. We all know, so don't even try it. Yeah, like um, who was that guy? Wait, let me think of it real quick. Um, it was somebody last week. Oh, sarah McBride, the representative from Delaware. And did you see the other politician that refused?
Speaker 2:to.
Speaker 1:Called her Mr McBride, yes, and then she called him Madam, which I thought was hilarious. I did too Good for her and super, super proud and I'm so mad that I can't think of the name right now but of the gentleman who stood up for her and refused to let the man go on until he did it right and then, like a little bit, she closed everything down rather than say it but I was like you know, that dude is like fucking trans kids, because it's always the ones who have to hide it so bad.
Speaker 1:Or it's either little boys or it's.
Speaker 2:Something horrible.
Speaker 1:It's something different Well, maybe horrible, or at least different. And my friend was like it's just something he doesn't want to do to his wife because she's too pure. And I said, no, it's something he doesn't want to do to his wife because she's too pure. And I said, no, it's something he doesn't want to do to his wife because he doesn't want his wife to know who he actually is exactly I don't.
Speaker 2:Just as a small tangent, I'm related to that. Why the fuck do you care?
Speaker 1:exactly. Why does anybody?
Speaker 2:care what. Who goes goes is what, and the whole line of trans women are beating regular women or cisgendered women or whatever the fucking term is. Well, first can I just say I don't like the term cisgender, so I don't want to be called that. And I think sometimes I get a little bit out of shape when they push that. Because if you want to be called what you want to be called, then let me be called what I want to be called. Yes, just my soapbox for that. Yes, um, but why the fuck do you care?
Speaker 2:I know why do you care? It's not happening. It is not happening. There are not men. Yeah, where's the data?
Speaker 1:I went on a wig.
Speaker 2:Look, any man can walk into any woman's room and assault her any, any time. You don't have to have a wig on to do that. You don't have to have a dress on to do that. You don't have to be pretending that you're a girl to go. You can walk in to a woman. You can follow a woman into a woman's room and assault her in there, and it happens all the time and guess what?
Speaker 1:it's never. Never a trans woman, no, never fuck that, no stupid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, call people what they want to be called and don't fucking care exactly. It doesn't affect you at all, at all none, not even the teeniest, tiniest bit in the whole entire world why do you care? Somebody pees standing up or doesn't, right, it's none of your business. Right, and you know what? Women have forever been going into men's rooms because the line for the women's rooms is too long yeah, I mean one thing I'm so proud like of my dad and janet.
Speaker 1:They're down in florida and they're in fort myers and they belong to a private club. I won't like call it out or anything like that, but they have a member who he was previously a lawyer she, sorry and she's trans and she shows up there and hangs out in her dresses and her little bobbed haircut and her jewelry and her makeup and everybody just hangs out with her and these are a bunch of old white guys.
Speaker 2:Because it's been trained that it's some kind of fucked up concept. But if you know someone, then, it becomes a little more real, but you can separate that person from this big bad evil.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:And another thing men have been coming into women's rooms with their daughters forever, exactly. And you will never, not even one time, see, and if you are a man and you have a small daughter and you don't want to take her into the men's room, totally get it, but you don't want to send her into the woman's room by yourself. If you announce, hey, I have a daughter, can I come in, they will let nobody's going to stop you, nope.
Speaker 1:Actually, they're all going to be like oh, what a good dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so nice. Oh, what a good dad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's so nice, all right.
Speaker 2:We're getting off on a huge tangent here. Fuck that shit Anyway. So we're all weird. Just get over it. We are. Let people be who they want to be.
Speaker 1:That is the moral of this episode.
Speaker 2:Basically, that is the moral of this goddamn movie. Yeah, it is, yeah, exactly. But what's going to happen on Monday? Same shit, we're all going back to where we were.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Except some of us. Yeah, this Molly Ringwald and.
Speaker 1:Ally Sheedy remain friends. We've made it work, yeah.
Speaker 2:We were not in high school then, so I think we still would have been friends in high school, do you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, in high school, do you? Yeah, I tell you all the time, I don't think my husband would have dated me in high school. I was really fucking weird.
Speaker 2:I don't my husband didn't really date in high school. He was a jock, he liked to party. I tell him all the time I'm like there's no way you would have dated me. And he was like no, I think I would have. When I was like and then he's like one time we were talking about something, he was like you had a cane. And I was like yeah, I carried a cane. And he was like why? And I was like why wouldn't you exactly?
Speaker 1:because it was cool.
Speaker 2:I said I also wore a cape and he was like oh my god, you wore a fucking cape and I was like you would not have been anywhere near me whatever.
Speaker 2:Uh thanks for listening everybody. Uh like share rate review. Find us where you listen to podcasts. Follow us on all the socials, at like whatever pod. Uh, I can't think of anything that is related to that, but, um, we're still trying to. We got to make a video. We got to get a camera. We do because we can't do it on our phone no, it's weird it.
Speaker 2:It's weird, yeah, so we got to get a camera and then maybe we'll do video. It's very scary, it is. Nobody wants to see me right now. You shouldn't see me right now.
Speaker 1:I'm sweating we, we are definitely radio personalities, not front of the camera too, money shot okay, uh.
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