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Thank you. Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for by and about Gen X. I'm Nicole and this is my BFF, heather Hola, so we've done a little chatting before we start recording and and we did heather's back on pause.
Speaker 2:We're just gonna not discuss it well, we could talk about the one thing, because I thought it was no, you're gonna talk about things, I'm just not gonna ask you how your week was.
Speaker 1:Okay, good and she's also full of rage again. So if you enjoyed that episode where she was rage filled, you might get another one, still rage filled, that's the thing of it.
Speaker 2:Well, first, happy Pride Month everybody.
Speaker 1:Yes, if you are Happy Pride Month.
Speaker 2:If you celebrate pride, but that's what's going to bring me to, not the rage. Although, anyway, rainbows, let's talk about rainbows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my therapist, god love her, god help her. Apparently, there are other emotions besides anger. Oh yeah, I don't know if you knew that. So the rainbow that I speak of is she has me. I had to download an emotion wheel god and it is rainbowed, oh god, yes.
Speaker 2:And it tells you what you might actually be feeling, because apparently anger is not always the one. I haven't used my color wheelie or my my emotion wheel yet because I don't think you're ready it's straight out rage at this point. Yeah, you're not ready. I mean, today I was five seconds away from handing a customer the keys to my mail truck and just ubering back to the office two best friends.
Speaker 1:We're talking fast from mystic to arcades. We're having a blast. Teenage dreams, neon screens, it was all rad and you're the meat.
Speaker 2:Like you know, it's like whatever Together forever. We've never done this ever Laughing, sharing Our stories. Forever We'll take you back. It's like whatever. She gave me homework Well, she said it wasn't homework, but it was homework that I have to start learning how to use the emotion wheel I can't wait to see yeah me. I I downloaded it. I didn't really look at it, but I know it's rainbowed yeah but I'm not angry.
Speaker 2:It's pride month, that's lovely. I got my ally shirts. I got one that has a bigfoot on it and he's holding the ally flag. Oh, I know it's so cute, oh. And then I got another one.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know that bigfoot was an ally, but yes, I should have known yeah he is, he loves everybody.
Speaker 2:He hides from everybody equally. No, no, he don't care. And then I got another one that has two skeleton hands, holding a rainbow heart.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's adorable.
Speaker 2:That's my, my pride.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:What about you? Do you need?
Speaker 1:an emotion wheel, Anyway. So I heard another cool thing on NPR this week. I should just start a segment of what Nicole heard on NPR this week. But have you ever heard of aquamation? No, Okay so aquamation is no Okay. So accumulation is like cremation, but it's water-based. Oh, I have, I have. It's supposed to be much better for the environment, less like aggressive than being burned.
Speaker 2:I think it leaves less of a carbon.
Speaker 1:Yes, it does. So here's what it is. The process is based on alkaline hydrolysis. The body is placed in a pressure vessel, which is then filled with a mixture of water and potassium hydrate, nope hydroxide, and heated to a temperature of around 320 degrees. At an elevated pressure, which precludes boiling, the body is efficiently broken down into its chemical components, completely disintegrating its DNA, which I thought was interesting. A process which takes approximately four to six hours. So easy peasy, there you go. The result is a quantity of a green brown scented liquid, ew, but it contains amino acids, peptides, sugars and salts, and the soft, porous white bone remains. Calcium phosphate is easily crushed in the hand, or they use a emulator, because that's probably gross.
Speaker 1:To form a white colored dust.
Speaker 2:You don't want anybody under your fingernails.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I thought that was kind of neat. The guy that they had on NPR, actually he somewhere in Delaware.
Speaker 1:He has a pet aquamation, oh, and he's busy with legislation trying to make it legal in delaware for humans but he said for his, for pets it's like under 10 pounds is like 150 bucks, up to 50 pounds, 200 bucks, like it really wasn't that expensive, right so? And he said it only takes like 15 minutes to a half hour for a small pet to break down. So I don't know. I just said never heard of it. It sounded super cool to me.
Speaker 2:I have heard of it. I did see something about that, yeah, and that you know I've been.
Speaker 1:I've talked before about how I want my remains disposed of.
Speaker 2:Yes, Um, and this could be a good one, although it does take your whole DNA out. Your DNA is out there. I don't know if you know it's what it's out there. It's attached to three other people. Oh, that's true. Okay, three other people have half of your DNA.
Speaker 1:Okay, good enough.
Speaker 2:No, because I still want to do the thing. I would say I would like to do it because I don't want my dna anywhere. Yeah, I want. That's why I don't have kids. There should never be any more of me. It's very, very stupid to be here of me.
Speaker 1:Um, I think you had I did have a fun. Fact you do have a fun fact.
Speaker 2:I really have a really fun fact. This is gonna blow your mind. Maybe hugh hefner okay, you know, hugh hefner um in the 60s, paid for, backed almost all of the feminist movements and to fight Roe v Wade. He gave a lot of money to fight Roe v Wade and he was big into this was the reason I heard this. He funded the rape kits. Wow, yeah, the invention of the rape kits.
Speaker 1:I did not know that. Yes, where did you find that? Why does this sound so random?
Speaker 2:It was on one of my podcasts. Okay, they did the history of the rape kit Okay, and yeah, he was big into all the feminists, but if you think about it it makes sense, because if women have control of their own bodies, then they will pose for him.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it might be selfish, but I mean yeah, I mean, I definitely thought that when you said roe v wade, I was like, of course he wants abortion to be legal but um, yeah, and birth control, but yeah, he was a big he he gave a lot um why is she thinking? But?
Speaker 2:yeah, he was big into uh funding the rape kits that's very good to know, because you know we are.
Speaker 1:I feel like we all grew up loving hugh hefner. Like the joke of the hugh hefner, if you put on any sort of red satiny robe. Somebody's going to say you look like Hugh Hefner. But then I become an adult and feminist and I'm like but then I don't know, I know, I don't feel like. I'm sure that there are bad stories.
Speaker 2:And there's even heard bad stories and there are.
Speaker 1:There's the playboy money bunny murder thing on ID id, but it's always like the same three girls on there. So I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, and I'll never know, but it is good for my own psyche because I've always just been like, oh that to know that he did actually support things that I support.
Speaker 2:Yes it I I. I was shocked at first and then I was like, well, no, that makes total sense, because if women are in control of their own and he said that he wanted them the whole he wanted them to be comfortable being able to do- whatever they want and being able to to express their sexual freedom without getting raped. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 2:Liked it now you know the rest of the story. I'll get sued for saying that I can love that show. Um then one more thing. Oh, did you finish the peewee thing I did? Oh, did you cry? I'm not a crier, no, I cried. Jay cried Because, apparently, that I also have an emotion that I don't know if that is on there, it's probably just rage crying. I'm so mad Pee Wee's dead. Yeah, I cried and I'm very sad that I never got to meet the man. I think that's what I took out of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm glad he did what he did. I think that's what I took out of it yeah, I'm glad he did what he did. Like the interviewer said, if he hadn't done that, all that stuff would just be lost. Nobody else would take the time to put it together.
Speaker 2:Nobody would ever know about him and I saw someone talking about the documentary and was like it's such a shame that he died because everybody likes that. That he died because everybody likes that. I mean that paul rubens is a. He could have restarted his entire career just being himself because he was funny very I mean very funny, very sarcastic, very arrogant, yeah, but in all the best ways and, honestly, he was always very handsome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was. Yeah, I noticed that a lot of people were saying you know, he was real. I mean, I always liked him. I, of course, liked his Buffy when he was in Buffy so I enjoyed that look and he rocked that look a lot. You know the whole peewee thing. It's a good if you haven't watched yet.
Speaker 1:It really is Like like I didn't know really what I was even getting myself into with it. Yeah, but it was. There was so much I didn't know about him. Yeah, and then just all the fun memories of watching the peewees yeah, we started watching peewees playhouse again I feel like I want to too, like I was singing along and I was like it's pity.
Speaker 2:Do you know who does the um, the theme song for Pee Wee's Playhouse? She's not credited because she couldn't be.
Speaker 1:I think I do, they did it on the DL Cyndi Lauper. Oh yeah, yeah, I knew that at some point.
Speaker 2:And now, if you listen to it, you're like oh yeah, it's 100% Cyndi. Lauper. I don't know who was fooled by that, but it's fucking Cyndi Lauper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and speaking of strong, feminine, female singers Chapel Rowan, who I just absolutely adore. Have you heard her song Phenomenon?
Speaker 2:No, not Phenomenon, I can tell you. No, I've only ever heard one song, okay, and now it's going to be stuck in my head. Is it Pink Pony H-O-T-T-O-G-O. I didn't know that was her either. Then I've heard two songs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, feminomenon is my jam right now and I love her. Yeah. And then just one other thing I saw on the Philly News this week it's the 25 years of Alex's lemonade stand to try to raise money for cancer. And 25 years later it's huge that this year's I think it's this weekend maybe, but there's like 2 000 stands getting set up across the country- oh, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, doesn't applebee's have like a thing on there?
Speaker 1:I believe that they do yeah I think applebee's promotes that so they interviewed her mom and she was like you know what a beautiful way to, yeah, you know, remember our daughter. So I don't know, it was neat. I just always have, like that organization, thought it was pretty cool, so I just wanted to share that's lovely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think I had anything else yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 1:I thought that I did. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:I thought I did too, but I didn't.
Speaker 1:Mary Lou Retton got a DUI this week. Really that was kind of sad, huh yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what to say. I know what are you doing, Mary.
Speaker 1:Lou, I know right, you got a 10. Yeah. I guess, I don't know. Well, I've heard being a gymnast on a professional level is not a glamorous life?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think it is.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's no I think there's a lot of bad things that happen to gymnasts.
Speaker 2:Yes. And my niece is a gymnast, so we will not talk about. Yeah, it makes me upset, I know, I know she's almost done, I think.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, because, um, you know she's 15, so no 16, my bad, she's 16. So now she wants to be like 20 different things, so one of them is forensics, because she's weird like her aunt yep, yep.
Speaker 1:It does shock me, though, that she's considering getting out of gymnastics because she was so passionate.
Speaker 2:And she still is. I don't know, maybe I think the who the hell knows, because I know she wanted to for a while. She was just going to come back to the and work at the gym that she goes to. And maybe she still will. She probably still will, but I don't think my sister was kind of hoping she would want to go and she still could, I guess, guess go to college on a gymnastic scholarship, no doubt because she could still compete. I know there's a university of maryland, I think, has a gymnastics team.
Speaker 1:yeah, nice anyway, yeah yeah, all right. So, um, before we get started, I want to remind everyone to like share rate review. You can find us wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow us on all the socials, at LikeWhateverPod, and we are on YouTube at LikeWhatever, and you can send an email to LikeWhateverPod at gmailcom. So, now that we have that out of the way. So now that we have that out of the way, once again, I got a major Gen X celebrity death on my week to record. Yes, heather's mad, because I always get them. So this week we're going to Every damn week. Well, how do you think? I feel I have topics I want to cover and all this shit keeps popping up. So, anyway, we're going to fuck around and find out about mash's hot lips.
Speaker 2:Hooligan, oh yeah, aka, uh, loretta swit, yes, um, I got my information from fandomcom and imbdcom and mash was a very big show for me growing up like me as well yeah, it was always on um, when it was on on the tv it was on and I feel like I learned so much from that show just about kind of life and I feel like mash is one of those things that, even though it wasn't set in a time that we lived, right, you know, and I think for the most part it was filmed in the early Gen X period, but I always think of MASH as like Gen X. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I don't know anybody who didn't watch it, who has never seen it, who wasn't affected by it.
Speaker 1:I mean, there are still episodes I think about to this day and get upset. Oh, I can't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a couple I can I mean, I guess, spoiler alert if you haven't watched it. When, henry, is it Henry Blake that dies? That one?
Speaker 1:that was bad that's the always the first one that comes to me. Yeah, that one was real bad, yeah, and I always just picture in my head the scene of the helicopter taking off. Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, that was a. That was a brutal one, but there was so much good in it, like everybody was, I think all the characters were just perfectly tested. They were very good characters and, and I think they were very good at showing emotion. But anyway, yeah, um.
Speaker 1:so loretta swit, who played major Major Margaret Hot Lips Houlihan on the TV comedy MASH, died on May 30th at her home in New York City for outstanding performance by a supporting actress in a comedy every year from 1974 to 1983, winning the Emmy in 1980 and 1982. So the show ran from 1972 to 1983.
Speaker 2:So really, right there in that sweet spot. Well, that explains it then Yep. I thought it was earlier than that. I didn't realize it was that long? Yeah. All of our parents were watching it from the time we were born and we really probably should not have been watching it.
Speaker 1:Oh no, although, like they said in Pee Wee, he said he wanted stuff on his kid's show to go over the kids' heads True and it to be jokes for the adults. And he was like and if you were a kid that knew that, that's your parents fault, that's not my fault.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I was cracking up. It was so funny. Um. So, set in south korea during the korean war, mash followed the medical staff who cared for the wounded in a mobile army surgical hospital.
Speaker 1:Initially, the series focused on the characters that had been established in altman's film and altman. There was, um, I think I forgot to include it, but there was a movie called mash that was prior to the tv show. Yes, and altman was the person who made that movie. Um, so let's see the two lead roles being the army surgeons, captain benjamin franklin, hawkeye, pierce the reason I still love Alan Alda to this day, played by Alan Alda, and Captain Trapper, john McIntyre, who was played by, or who was? Yes, the part was played by Lane Rogers die. Yes, although talented physicians, hawkeye and trapper were unlikely soldiers. Both had non-conformist personalities and strong affinities for nurses and bootleg liquor. Their antics routinely outraged their straight-laced superior officers major margaret hot lips hooligan, played by loretta swit uh, and the ranking nurse, major frank burns, played by larry linville, their nemesis during the 1972 to 1977 seasons. I was very upset when he left I was too, but I did like.
Speaker 2:I did like winchester yeah, also, and major charles emerson winchester, who was played by david david ogden steers and I think he passed away a couple years ago you know, so here to interrupt for a second you're fine I I find that the most successful shows are shows that it is feasible that a main character would leave the show seamlessly and it's not like a shock to the system, like any medical drama.
Speaker 2:I feel like er yeah all of them cast members when it's anatomy yeah, they come and go, and that's what happens in hospitals, like, and I feel like this too, that's what happens in war. You, you get sent home, right, you know? I just think that that's one of the the best ways to do it, because then you can introduce new characters seamlessly, without it being like wait a minute, what? Yeah?
Speaker 1:That is a very cool, cool observation, and I feel like back in the day they used to try to replace people with a new actor and just be like oh, it's just them like there's two beckys, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly there you go all right. So, um, all right. Where were we?
Speaker 1:winchester uh, yeah, so the base was officially commanded by incompetent but genial lieutenant colonel henry blake, who was played by mclean uh stevenson and later, in the series 1975 to 1983, was irresistible colonel sherman potter, who was played by harry morgan. I did, I see, and I loved them all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the, you're right yeah, because you can bring them in and out, and it's not because I think the problem is, when you take a character out of another show, then it kind of falls apart because you're like wait, but why, is that. That's the stupidest reason ever especially when they just disappear, right yeah, and they're like oh well, they called and now they're in.
Speaker 1:But why that?
Speaker 2:character was never like, that was never in their thing Like your sister met a man and moved away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but when did that happen Over?
Speaker 2:the summer? I don't know. There's no backstory on that.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:But in this I mean people die all the time, people get shipped out suddenly, so there's no need to build a character art. That would you know. Yeah, it doesn't seem as sudden.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like it, tyson. He's proclaimed himself the podcast mascot. I think, yes, he has, but he's rolling around on the bed meowing. He's so darn cute. He's pretty cute. Um, okay, so that, however, the base's uh operation was held together by the company's clerk corner colonel corporal, the radarReilly, who was played by Gary Berghoff, who was also in the movie as the same character. I don't think many of them transferred from that Another corporal, max Klinger, Jamie Farr, frequently cross-dressed in the hope that it would earn him a medical discharge and flight home, although I have to wonder, after all those years of doing it and not working, maybe he just liked dressing up.
Speaker 2:There's a whole thing about that.
Speaker 1:But good for MASH. So about Margaret? Margaret is a member of the Army Nurse Corps and, as the highest ranking female in the 47th, 407th, I was like wait, female in the 47th 407th? I was like wait, it wasn't 47th. I glanced over that number every time I was reading through it and I never bothered to say it in my head.
Speaker 2:Those look weird.
Speaker 1:Why didn't they just write 407th? I don't know. She is the unit's chief nurse, a role that she takes very seriously. She is devoted to her Army career, having been born and raised an Army brat. She cites her father, Colonel Alvin Howitzer Al Houlihan, as her role model. In earlier episodes, Margaret said that her father is deceased, but it is recanted as he appears in the season nine episode Father's Day.
Speaker 2:I take back what I said about consistency.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe she just said he was deceased.
Speaker 2:She's dead to her.
Speaker 1:There you go. Little is known or revealed about her mother, except that she and her father are divorced, that, and that her mother is an alcoholic and a kleptomaniac. Uh, so her mom was a little hood rat? Yeah, uh. Margaret once mentioned that she sends half of her salary to her mother as a remittance. Remittance, uh, half of which goes to get her sober, while the other half goes towards bail money. Margaret is stern and no-nonsense, but behind the scenes she is willing to buck regulations for her own gain, using her sex appeal to get her way with higher-ranking officers, which she often did prior to her arrival at the 4077. All the women on that show were floozies.
Speaker 2:Every single one of them.
Speaker 1:Even like the older ladies that would come in or the old nurses they'd sleep with, like Colonel Potter Like everybody was getting, well, he didn't.
Speaker 2:He didn't know because he had Mrs Potter he did.
Speaker 1:They definitely slept with somebody, though, anyway. They definitely slept with somebody, though. Anyway. In tandem with Frank, margaret spends the early part of the series battling Hawkeye and Trapper, as well as constantly criticizing Henry's lax style of leadership. Her dissatisfaction with Henry's command, or her perceived lack thereof, frequently motivates her to go over his head and file formal complaints with army brass, and I do remember that, too, they were always in there getting radar to get somebody on the phone and he'd have to pull that bag out, wind it up.
Speaker 1:He'd call and they couldn't hear him because there's like bombing going on in the background.
Speaker 1:This recurring gambit culminates in the trial of Henry Blake, in which she and Frank bring formal charges of treason against Henry, but the charges are dropped when it is revealed at his court-martial hearing that Henry actually donated medical supplies to an orphanage run by an American in North Korea. Frank and Margaret illegally attempted to suppress this evidence medical supplies to an orphanage run by an american in north korea. Frank and margaret illegally attempted to suppress this evidence by having hawkeye and trapper put under house arrest, but they escaped and made it to the hearing just in time, which was very typical, yes, back then. So we can't talk about um margaret without talking about frank, because those two were just hand in hand.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, they were so funny together. Um, so, despite her admonitions to the others for their immoral behavior, margaret is in an ongoing affair with the married frank burns. Throughout the first four seasons of the series, a recurring joke is that Margaret and Frank are convinced that nobody else knows about them, but their affair is actually a poorly kept secret throughout the army. According to Hawkeye, the only one who doesn't know about them is General MacArthur's pipe stuffer. Frank often makes mention of his wife, lois uh, which never sits well with margaret I can't remember that who often hints none too subtly that frank should leave his wife for her. All right, so next we're going to talk about donald panopscot. Do you remember donald panopscot? I don't. Oh, okay, you will probably when I talk about it. So when Margaret's relationship with Frank ended, oh, donald, okay.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that was his last name, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I actually remember it. It looks weird, but as soon as I looked at it I was like Penobscot, like I remember it from the show, remember it from the show, yeah, um, so, uh. Finally dawns on margaret that frank only wants her as a side piece and has no intention of leaving his wife. Shocker, uh. With this in mind, early in season five, when she returns from r&r in tokyo, she shocks the camp with her announcement that she is now engaged to lieutenant colonel Penobscot. Frank is crushed by the news, but even more so by Margaret's incessant praise of Donald in his presence during surgery, causing Frank to accidentally stab her finger when she assists him. These two, when I was reading this, reminded me of Dwight and Angela on the Office. Do you watch the Office? No, okay, well, those of you that watch the Office that's what made me think of. Margaret is convinced that Frank did it deliberately, but Hawkeye puts her in her place when he points out her insensitivity. When she argues that Hawkeye treats Frank the same way, hawkeye counters that he never does it when Frank is down, but only when he wasn't looking, that he never does it when Frank is down, but only when he wasn't looking.
Speaker 1:Margaret and Donald marry in camp at the end of season five and go to Tokyo for their honeymoon. But in Fade Out Fade In the episode Fade Out, fade In, margaret returns to camp early and is very sullen. She later reveals that after the first couple of days of their honeymoon Donald seemed to shut down completely. The distance between Margaret and Donald soon puts a strain not only on their marriage but also on Margaret's emotions, as one moment she is on an even keel but the next she'll either be fuming over something Donald did or said or violently pining to be with him. In most of either of these cases, radar's office, and sometimes Radar himself, becomes the most common indirect target of Margaret's physical tantrums. Their frequent absence from one another is the catalyst for Donald's philandering. I don't remember that.
Speaker 2:That's what we're calling it yeah, well, that's what they call it then yeah, if you were a guy, that's what they called it, okay you were a whore if you were well, that's still the the same, oh yeah times haven't changed, oh yeah oh yeah, where's you happening now?
Speaker 1:exactly, uh, in dear sigmund, margaret tells sydney friedman about how donald still, her fiance at the time, called to tell her that he celebrated his birthday in tokyo without her. Um, and do you remember, sydney freeman?
Speaker 2:yes, he was the psychiatrist.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was really cool, too, having that character. I don't think he was on for long, though was he on the whole time?
Speaker 2:he, I think he just was reoccurring.
Speaker 1:He dropped in every now and then. Yeah, or he wasn't a full-time cast traveling. Yeah, yeah, okay. Um, when sydney remarks that donald must miss her, she replies that they had a very good time. So she already knows at this point. Right, he's not philandering, he's fucking around and not in the fun way. Well, maybe fun for him. Marg Margaret finds out that a new nurse in camp had had an affair with Donald right before she arrived. In the episode In Love and War In Comrades in Arms, margaret receives a steamy letter from Donald, but the letter was meant for another woman and he mistakenly mailed it to Margaret. I remember all these episodes. I don't remember. If I try to think back about MASH, I can't remember. No, that's not true. I remember a lot of specifics, but obviously over a nine-year period there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:I forgot, but as I read this, I'm like, yep, yep, remember that.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think I would also if I watched them. I'd be like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I was also going to say through the years whenever I find it on TV, I turn it on, so it's very random, but I have seen it enough to have it nice and fresh.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Ironically, in the same episode and the next, margaret has her own steamy encounter with none other than her nemesis Hawkeye Pierce. I do remember that one, oh yeah, which took a quick turndown, though. She eventually makes peace with Hawkeye and begins a proper friendship. Yes, I thought I had more in here.
Speaker 2:I think that they always did. I think that they always did. I think it was a.
Speaker 1:They did have sexual tension and I think it was a they did have sexual tension.
Speaker 2:And I think it was a mutual respect.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Like a little play.
Speaker 1:Like they didn't respect Frank. No, and Frank hated them.
Speaker 2:Yeah For it Because of it.
Speaker 1:Because he knew they didn't respect him. But yeah, I don't think there was any disrespect between Pierce and Houlihan. A lot of jabbing.
Speaker 2:Yes, hating.
Speaker 1:Sarcasm, yes, but yeah, I thought I had something in here about that episode, but I remember it that they got stuck somewhere the Jeep broke down, yes, and it rained. Yes, and they made like this little makeshift shelter yes, and they were all snuggled up under it. Then the magic happened. I remember that that was a shocker, though Even as a little kid you're like what, what is going to happen now?
Speaker 2:That's why I'm saying we should not be watching that. I know what is going to happen now.
Speaker 1:We should not be watching.
Speaker 2:I mean just the nurses in and out of the tents of everybody, I mean the still yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1:I don't know what do I know? Yep, exactly by the end of season seven, donald promises to work things out with her, but he effectively ends all hope of reconciliation when he permanently transfers statewide to san francisco. It's a very, uh, passive, aggressive way. Marriage oh, I'm just gonna move halfway across the world. We'll see how this works. Um, initially livid at donald's cowardice and the fact that he himself requested the transfer, she then blames herself for the place I picked to have a marriage, which is also a very sad thought. When Hawkeye asks what she's going to do, she tearfully tells him she is going to get a divorce, and she later confides in him that it's the best thing that's ever happened to her I was gonna say I I do remember them getting very close, just very close.
Speaker 1:I like I remember them having many conversations and stuff yeah, yeah, I think some of the other stuff I was reading through was that their relationship was different after that um Personal life for Margaret.
Speaker 1:Outwardly, margaret seems to have herself all together, but in her private moments she is shown to have a highly vulnerable side that she goes to great measures to keep hidden from everyone else, no matter how close they are to her. She suffers from extreme loneliness stemming from her unluckiness in relationships, and she deeply yearns for true love and emotional support. And though she fights hard to keep her emotions bottled up, she cannot always control them. I hear you, girl. I feel like you're connecting.
Speaker 2:I was just gonna say is that paragraph about me?
Speaker 1:In the episode, the nurses she tearfully opens up, to their surprise, about how she feels put off by the way they treat her, as though she is not welcomed in their social circle, not even offering her a lousy cup of coffee.
Speaker 2:Man, that line was as you said it has. Yes, I remember that because they're having like a girl's night and they're doing their hair and good girl stuff, and I remember that yep.
Speaker 1:And then they said to her well, we didn't think you'd come and she's like you could have asked yes yes so sad yes I remember that one well yeah, I bet those nurses still feel guilty about that today. As they should they're probably not alive and they were actresses, but they should still feel really bad about it.
Speaker 2:You know what? They should have taken that shit to the grave. Yeah, be sad bitches, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:God, that man. What a trigger. Ooh, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1:I can see her face and everything as she does it and her throat was like trembling, yeah, but she's trying not to cry oh, I'm getting goosebumps. I know uh, in the uh episode images, a stray dog uh to which she has been secretly giving food, is killed by a jeep. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1:one, yes, I to say there's no way you forgot the dog dying, hawkeye notices her trying not to cry and follows her to her tent and tells her she needs to let it out, which she eventually does on Hawkeye's shoulder. All of this happens after Margaret bears down too hard on Lieutenant Cooper, a new nurse who initially cannot hack being in the OR. A new nurse who initially cannot hack being in the OR, but after Cooper decides to adopt Margaret's callous personality as her own. And then after the dog is killed, margaret comes to a new understanding of what Cooper is going through and backs down.
Speaker 2:I remember the dog dying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do too. I didn't remember the rest of that.
Speaker 2:Because we were traumatized. I mean, I think, most. I don't know if it's everybody, but for me the most significant animal image is that of the whole series. Is the chicken in the bus? Yeah definitely. Did you hear all the? I won't go into them because I don't really know them well, but all the well, you can talk about it even if you don't know.
Speaker 1:Okay, my husband does it all, that's fine.
Speaker 2:Oh boy um anywho, they uh, there's a fan theory or whatever those things are that people decide Right that the whole thing was just a delusion by Hawkeye, the whole series. Yeah, I don't know how I felt about that. And they say that's the bus, is the with the chicken, because that's his breaking point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know I'd have to go back and rewatch it, thinking that, yeah, I don't know, I'd have to go back and rewatch it. Thinking that. Yeah, I can't attach that to it, based on what I remember.
Speaker 2:So I know totally off topic. Yes, because I have a fan theory of my own about two entirely different shows. Yay, I have always thought that married with children.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Peg and Al get divorced at the end.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And then Peg goes on to marry some bikers Hold on, it gets better, okay. And then Al marries a woman from Columbia. Because think about those two, his kids, think about I know they are Kelly and Bud what they are. Yeah, she was promiscuous as a teenager and then she grew out of are. Yeah, she was promiscuous as a teenager and then she grew out of it Yep, yep, but eventually comes out gay, because I mean, who didn't see?
Speaker 1:that one coming.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's my, that's my fan and and he's trying to make up he either had a heart attack or something like that, and then he's trying to make up he either had a heart attack or something like that, and then he's trying to make up for lost time and he is a salesman, yeah in both and he's very similar. Like you could tell where he would have been.
Speaker 1:He really is a crotchety, yeah that's my fan theory.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Completely different show, whatever did you have a second one too?
Speaker 2:no, that was it oh, I don't think I know. No, that was it I love that one. Yay, yeah, I've always thought that I can't wait to tell Jay that I mean she is Kelly Bundy.
Speaker 1:Definitely I can't remember her name on the show Claire she's married to Phil, she's married to Phil and it's Cam and it's right on the tip of my tongue I know okay mitchell yes, mitchell, yes, yes, yep, yeah, he's bud, that's wild, all right, you just totally like I just that's I.
Speaker 2:Every time I've watched the show I've been like huh.
Speaker 1:And did you make that up yourself, yeah?
Speaker 2:I guess, maybe, I don't know, maybe I went insane and read it somewhere. You should put that out there somewhere, but I think I'm pretty sure I decided that on my own. Yeah, you're amazing.
Speaker 1:I know. All right, let me see. In keeping with her attempts to maintain her hidden emotions, we're back on Margaret, right, margaret? Yes yes, she usually does not let anyone get too close to her. In the episode the Birthday Girls, margaret confides in Clinger that when she was younger she tried making friends, only to have to permanently part from them every time her father was transferred, which always hurt. She eventually decided she would not let anyone get close enough to break her heart again and began keeping to herself right, which is very sad.
Speaker 1:It's no wonder she was see. I, I feel, feel like I connect with her too, because I can just be.
Speaker 2:I think part of the problem that you don't realize until you get to like this point in life is how difficult it is to make friends. And I think it's at this point in your life, like I think it's when you get to this point at our age now you know most people's children are grown and they're becoming grandparents or whatever. So now you're back to who you were, who you thought.
Speaker 2:You think you're going back to who you were pre-children's yeah, but with like 25 more years experience and yeah and I think part of the problem is is you don't realize how many friends you lose over time just because I mean, everybody's busy, you have a quaint, people come in and out of your life, whatever it is what it is, but I don't think people really understand how difficult it is to make a like friend, friend at this age, like if you didn't come packing a friend you're probably not going to get.
Speaker 1:It's very rare and I say this to my friend amy often because it really does blow my mind but she and I have been friends now for about 10 years about as long as I've been in this job because we met.
Speaker 1:She worked in one of the high schools that I work with right so I would go once a week to sit in her classroom and meet with students. And we just clicked. And now here we are, 10 years later and we like do everything together. Right, we're always doing things. We talk almost every day. We see each other at least once a week, you know, whatever, even if it's just hanging out sitting drinking glass of wine on the back porch or something. But I always tell her how it's not lost on me, how random it is to find someone that you can be that close to at this point in your life. Yeah so, and it's funny because you see it in younger generations.
Speaker 1:Now, like I work with a girl who I like very, very much. She works across the hallway, in the cubicle, across my office, and she's in her early 30s. She's got a 14-year-old son and a 2-year-old son, so she's doing the mom thing daycare, sports, chorus, all that stuff and she's like oh, you have, you have a puppy. Oh, my son loves puppies. Maybe I'll bring them over.
Speaker 1:And I'm like oh, no I did that with my kids, three of them yeah I mean I, I was that mom. I had the friends over then, the pool parties, the spending the night, I made the best pancakes. I was that mom. And now they are grown, now it's their problem. It's funny because I always thought I loved doing that stuff, but it turns out I love doing that for them.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:No, not so much. If I want to sit and eat a sleeve of Ritz for dinner, that's what I'm going to do For real.
Speaker 2:I had Froot Loops for dinner last night. That's the only good part about being an adult.
Speaker 1:My favorite nights when they were little was nights I had a decent amount of leftovers in the fridge.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'd made French toast and had a whole loaf worth in there, a couple nights worth of dinners, leftovers were in there, things like that, and we would have what I'd call free-for-alls yeah, and you could literally eat anything you wanted to for dinner I didn't care what it was I, I just wasn't fixing it I recently saw on one of the facebook pages um that people were upset that um people make multiple meals now for their children, and when we were kids, we had to sit there and eat what we ate. I did not, um right, because I am more stubborn than literally anybody else, and they well, and your parents aren't well.
Speaker 1:They tried yeah um but that was the mindset back then. Yeah, there are people starving in africa and you eat what you eat and you're going to eat everything on your plate and unfortunately I went on a hunger strike because I can't see your mom dealing with that very well. No, she didn't.
Speaker 2:So they were like fine, but this is, and my whole growing up it was this is what I'm making. If you don't want this, that's on you. So I you know. Of course, I learned how to cook, you know very early, just because she made.
Speaker 1:But it also probably has a lot to do with why you eat like a little kid.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Because they're the quick, easy things to.
Speaker 2:And they're easy to make. And my mom, you know, would make stuff and I wouldn't even try. I'm like like I'm not eating that and she didn't make me. So maybe it's her fault, I'm still like this, but but then again, you know, she didn't have to fight with me every day that's funny.
Speaker 1:You said about it being her fault, because there's so many different um mindsets on what's right and what's wrong about this, like I was forced to sit there for hours and not go to bed, or go to bed hungry, yeah, I think sometimes I even woke up to the same thing the next morning I did, they tried that that's what.
Speaker 2:That was one and only time. Then they were like yep, I'm not dealing with you gave them a double, double bird, seriously there was another, just just to tell you how fucking stubborn I was and probably still am.
Speaker 2:We were going out to eat fast food and I only ate one fast food, which was McDonald's, and I wanted McDonald's, but the other three of us wanted Burger King and I threw a temper tantrum and while they went into Burger King because my dad said we're not going to two different places. You either eat burger king or you stay in the car, and I sat in the car and watched them through the window I can definitely see you doing 100 my poor sister was so upset about it. Oh, are we gonna bring her something?
Speaker 1:my dad was like no, we are not but I I do know that that like shaped some things about me. It didn't affect me being picky, but it did affect for decades. If I knew I liked something at a certain place restaurant that's what I would get every single time I went there because I knew I liked it, I knew it was safe. But now, as I've grown and as my kids have grown and I can buy more expensive meals if I want, or go to different places and try different things.
Speaker 1:Plus, I've my cooking itself has matured you know since. I've gotten older too, so, um, so I feel like I'm pretty eclectic in my eating. However, that does not change the trauma of what that actually does Like every single night. But yeah, so with my kids, I decided and even as a little kid I used to think this, and to this day, when I say to people they're like huh, I'm like duh, like adults don't like every food, why would you think kids would like every food?
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Like. Your palates are different. There's just different things that you like. So why is it the end of the world if somebody doesn't like something? So with my kids, I'd always make them try it, and it wasn't a torture thing, it wasn't like take one bite, I was just like. They just knew that's how it worked. If I made something new, they were going to taste it. They like it, fine. If they don't, they don't have to eat it, right? And then same thing Like my son, my chili was his favorite. I want to say my youngest didn't care for the chili. So I'd be like, all right, well, I'm making chili, you make whatever you want, right? Or you know, if you want me to make you some waffles or something, I'll make that up.
Speaker 2:I think there's just such a stigma against like why is fruit loops okay for breakfast but not for dinner?
Speaker 1:right when breakfast is the most important meal of the day. I know like you can eat cereal.
Speaker 2:Cereal is a meal like. Why can't you have it as a meal that is?
Speaker 1:so engraved in our brain, though, because I don't buy a lot of lunch meat because it's very bad for you, um, but I fucking love lunch meat, so I got um, I always get the black forest deli ham right sliced very thin. Yes, because I like to like waverly stacking on like I don't like thick meat, so I may get fluffy by right okay uh land of the American I think we've discussed this before and then in the family group group chat on my husband's side.
Speaker 1:They're all out in Phoenix, arizona, so, but they're all from here and specifically the Lancaster area. So they were talking about Lebanon bologna, which I grew up eating sweet Lebanon bologna with mayonnaise and cheese. So that was in the group chat and they can't get it out there, and they were talking about it. So I'm standing there. I honestly just forgotten, even though it had only been a few days, but I forgot that we had talked about it. And I'm standing there and I look down and there it is and I'm like, oh shit, so I take a picture of it and send it to the group. And my sister in law thought I was being mean. So I take a picture of it and send it to the group. And my sister-in-law thought I was being mean.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so I got that and brought it home and, hold on, I forgot where I was going with that story. Oh so anyway, this morning today is work from home day, so I'm sitting there and I'm starving and I can't decide what I want to eat and I do need to grocery shop. And then I was like, oh shit, I have ham and cheese. I can't have ham and cheese sandwich. But it was like nine and I was like I was too early so I sat there and starved for like the next two hours because it was too early to eat a ham and cheese sandwich.
Speaker 1:I thought of that, but then I would have to cook an egg. Like that's how lazy I was feeling, and I know cooking an egg is the easiest thing in the world, but I was just feeling that lazy. But I really, like legit was like why can't I eat a ham and cheese sandwich for breakfast? Why am you eat ham and cheese omelets with toast?
Speaker 2:my sister hates breakfast foods, which is really weird.
Speaker 1:I know how did she grow up in that restaurant and hate breakfast food I don't know, she's not a big breakfast fan she doesn't like your omelets oh god, no, no um, the thing that really sucks about your omelets is it'll never be quite the same as it was on that frog house flatbed because I don't have that art flatbed.
Speaker 2:I don't have that flatbed anymore. I do have a spatula though.
Speaker 1:Like you do know how to make them, and I'm sure they are still. I probably couldn't even really try the difference, but there had to have been something special in that oh sure. Years of omelet-y-ness, and when you spread it out it's just so big.
Speaker 2:You made it so like that's how you cook it thoroughly without browning it.
Speaker 1:Kaylin still makes cheese and tomato omelets from getting them out of the church. She makes them at home now, but nothing like yours, yeah. Yeah, I know you're very anti-brown omelet and I can't do it without making them brown and I know what your thing is, but I still can't do it.
Speaker 2:You got to spread them thin and then flip it.
Speaker 1:And then the final secret. I can't tell you that. I know what it is, but I'm not going to tell. No, please don't, I'm not.
Speaker 2:There was we had at the restaurant. One time I had the secret sauce that I made. We had frog legs because the place was called the Frog House, so we had frog legs and I had a horse, a horsey sauce, horseradish sauce that I made.
Speaker 1:I didn't call it the Frog House, did I?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know what you called it. Maybe you did. Anyway, nobody and I mean nobody knew how to make it but me. There was one ingredient that I never told anybody about, and so I was the only one that could make it and we had.
Speaker 2:You know how they do that? Like the newspaper comes and they do the little. They did a little thing on us and they were talking about the frog legs and the guy kept asking me what is? Because people loved it. And he was like what is this sauce? And I was like it's a horsey sauce. And he was like what's in it? And I was like like it's a horsey sauce. And he was like what's in it? And I was like it's a horsey sauce. And he was like you're not gonna tell me. And I was like no, and he was like I'm not gonna put it in there. And she's like what? And I was like no, and my dad was like we don't even know what it is. He's like I have no idea what she does. He was like when we're out, she just makes more it's so funny how those little pockets of power are so important when you work in the restaurant industry.
Speaker 1:When I worked as a cocktail waitress in the casino, we had this monstrosity of a coffee machine.
Speaker 1:I mean it was just obscenely big and cumbersome and a huge pain in the ass to clean, but it would short out every once in a while or like, um, just stop working. It was literally an unplug it, plug it back in situation, right. So when it happened I went and fixed it and I wouldn't tell anybody what I did and there would be, I wouldn't work for like a day or two and it would sit there until I came in and I could fix it. That's funny, I know, and I only held on to it for like a month, but that power was, yeah, awesome, plus it was just kind of fun to be like.
Speaker 2:Really no one else figured this out I accidentally made chicken salad for one of the work events and now I am burdened with making it every time. But you know you love it I do, but it's a pain.
Speaker 1:It's a pain at home yeah, um.
Speaker 2:So my friend was like I really want to make it at home. What's your recipe? And I was like dead ass, silent. And he was like are you gonna tell me? And I was like no, no, I'm not. I was like I'll tell you most of it, but I'm gonna leave one thing out well, that's the problem with those cooking shows.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those chefs aren't gonna tell you no exact or, even better, the diners, drive-ins and dives, when those little mom and pop shops are throwing their stuff there is no way they're telling you everything that's going into that.
Speaker 2:Nope, because then people could make it at home the secret, by the way, to a really good chicken salad. I'm not going to tell you what a point in mind, but everything has to be cold, cold, cold, cold, very cold when you mix it. Yes, there you go. Yep, helpful tip, but we should talk about a pool of ham.
Speaker 1:I mean, if we have to, I guess. So in the later seasons, in contrast to Henry Blake, margaret gets along very well with his replacement, colonel Potter, who becomes a father figure to her. It is Potter who counsels her on whether or not to divorce Donald, instructing her to go with her gut feeling, which she declares is to divorce him. She also eventually relaxes her stance with the other surgeons, especially Hawkeye, after the events of comrades in arms, during which they get lost in the wilderness and are driven into each other's arms during an artillery barrage.
Speaker 1:Right they left out the rain and the makeshift shelter, but whatever after that she confides in him more frequently and even trades jokes with him until they both are in hysterics um. Overall, in the later seasons of of the series, margaret mellows to a more reasonable member of the staff who learns to get along better with others, both professionally and personally, and is able to better temper her authority with humanity. While many fans approved of Margaret's maturity, some did not, believing that she worked better as a strict, rigid antagonist. But in her defense it should be pointed out that in the earlier seasons, even at her worst, margaret still showed more compassion than Frank, who often conveyed little to no humanity at all, and I think that I think her character evolved beautifully.
Speaker 2:I do, do too.
Speaker 1:I mean, isn't that the whole purpose of doing life is to learn and get better?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I mean a lot of it, because she started to soften up when she didn't have Frank there matching her energy. So you know it makes sense when he leaves that she's going to soften as she gets older. I mean we all get a little bit. I don don't know except me stupid. Check your emotion wheel. I guess the color of mine's all red, different shades of red mine's gray fade to black.
Speaker 1:The real life inspiration of Margaret was, it's, believed to be made up of a couple of different real life Korean War, mash nurses there was one. Most notable among them was Captain Ruth Dixon, who was chief nurse of the 8055 MASH. Also mentioned is one Hot Lips, hammerly said to be a very attractive blonde of the same disposition, from El Paso, texas. And the third name found in some Internet resources is Captain Jane Thurness. All of them were career army nurses who eventually rose to high ranks. So I thought that was kind of sweet too. Alright, so I'm going to wrap this up with some fun facts. Fun facts.
Speaker 2:We totally need to get a fun fact we do.
Speaker 1:We can record it Okay when we do our next commercial. Then I have to put it in there and that'll be it We'll. We can record it Okay when we do our next commercial.
Speaker 2:Then I have to put it in there and that'll be it.
Speaker 1:We'll be like Pee Wee with both gypsies. Like fun facts. Fun facts Scream real loud, Fun facts. All right, so Loretta Swit was born on November 4th 1937. And she is a Jersey girl.
Speaker 2:How about it?
Speaker 1:She was an advocate for animal rights. Outside of her acting career, she dedicated her time and efforts to organizations such as the Animal Rescue Foundation and the Humane Society. Excellent, I know Good human. Yes, she appeared in over 270 episodes of MASH. I want to say there was like 11 that she wasn't in out of those whole nine years. That is pretty amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And she is an active supporter of veterans causes, which I also thought was kind of neat. She expressed deep gratitude to the men and women who have served in the armed forces and has been involved in various initiatives and organizations that support veterans.
Speaker 1:That's good for her. Yeah, I thought so too, so that was kind of fun. I mean, it was really off the beaten path of anything I would have ever thought to do. But when she passed away on Friday I was just like, yeah, she meant a lot to me. That show, I just can't say enough about it.
Speaker 2:I think it's probably one of the greatest shows to ever have aired. It has to be.
Speaker 1:I don't think I've ever heard anybody say man, I didn't really care for mash right maybe someone who was younger and didn't see it, although I still think it could hold up.
Speaker 2:I'm sure there's some problematicness, probably some racism, in there. Just, I don't really remember any racism though, but you probably have to look at it through a different lens now.
Speaker 1:Yeah you're probably right, just things that were cultural norms back then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would not be now, but. I think overall, yeah, it's just, it was just. Again I go back to the chicken episode where he just has it's just. Of course, I'll leave it to me remember the breakdown, it just encompassed everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really, really did. And it also gave us at a time because we were in the vietnam war, when this show was airing about the korean war, so um, or just yeah, it started before, yeah, okay, so anyway, but yeah, so all that was really fresh on everybody's mind and it did kind of give you a little insight, like with the bombs going off and you'd happen to be careful where you travel and you know them getting stopped on the side of the road or yeah, um, locals, like somebody running up into the camp because they needed help, or right, there was lots of stuff.
Speaker 2:I feel like that kind of gave obviously it's hollywood, but I don't know just felt like it gave you a little bit more perspective I think so it was a little more raw and real and I think that's a was a little more raw and real, and I think that's a lot of it was raw and real and I mean I don't know because I've never been on the front lines but we're in a mesh but yeah, it felt real and raw. Um, I feel like that all the characters were just super memorable. I mean, I don't think there's a character that you wouldn't be like.
Speaker 1:No, no, and I think it, I think it was realistic and that everybody didn't like everybody, yeah, and that was okay. Um, but everybody cared about everybody and everybody was going to watch out for everybody.
Speaker 2:Um, because, do you remember the big controversy when um trapper left and bj showed up and and uh, and Pierce did not care for that, but he evolved and you know, I think that's excellent news.
Speaker 1:I agree, yeah, and MASH is bigger than one episode. So at first I was like, all right, well, hot Lips died, I guess I'll do an episode on MASH. And then I like Googled and I was like, all right, well, hot lips died, I guess I'll do an episode on mash. And then I like googled and I was like, well, first of all, there's a liver disease also called mash, really yes so like the first six or seven were the show and then I was like wait, what, what?
Speaker 1:so I had to get a little more specific in my search but um so but yeah, I mean yeah quickly, I was like uh, yeah, no way we're just gonna focus on just her miss hot lips herself it's just a good character.
Speaker 2:She was a good character yep, she deserves her own yeah, her own episode now I gotta watch the show yeah, do you get the um me tv?
Speaker 1:yep okay, that's where I usually catch it yeah, I will.
Speaker 2:I have this weird thing on my cable that has like a channel for like every show, ever like its own channel. I don't know where it comes from, but it's on my tv like an adams family channel where they play nothing but the Addams Family.
Speaker 1:That sounds like that bootleg stuff I used to get.
Speaker 2:Maybe it is, no, I don't think it's bootleg.
Speaker 1:Maybe somebody near you has it in it. No, and you're getting jumped into it.
Speaker 2:That's like part of my cable it's like they have channels, like it's a channel, like last night we were watching the Jeffersons. That's a good one. It that's a good one. I think it comes off the entire. I don't know where it comes from.
Speaker 1:I've been catching Sanford and Son a lot that's a good one too.
Speaker 2:I'm coming, elizabeth.
Speaker 1:That's a funny ass show okay, wrapping it up yes very good thank you thank you for listening.
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