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Remember the 1980s and 1990s and all things Gen-X. Take a stroll down memory lane, drink from a hose, and ride until the street lights come on. We discuss the past, present, and future of the forgotten generation. From music to movies and television, to the generational trauma we all experienced we talk about it all. Take a break from today and travel back to the long hot summer days of nostalgia. Come on slackers, fuck around and find out with us!
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Now That's What I Call Heartache
Heartbreak never sounded so good. Join us as we journey through the defining breakup anthems of the 80s and 90s that still make us feel all the feelings decades later.
We're unpacking the surprising truth behind The Police's "Every Breath You Take" (hint: it's definitely not a love song), the cinematic power of OMD's "If You Leave" from Pretty in Pink, and the vocal masterpiece that is Whitney Houston's cover of "I Will Always Love You." Each track comes with stories – both from music history and our own personal connections that might just trigger your own musical memories.
Did you know Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" was actually a cover of a 1964 song that never found success until the 80s synth treatment? Or that Simple Minds initially refused to record "Don't You Forget About Me" before it became their signature hit? We're diving into these fascinating origin stories while sharing middle school dance traumas, personal attachments, and the bittersweet nostalgia these songs evoke.
From Annie Lennox's "Walking on Broken Glass" to Britney Spears' "Baby One More Time," we're examining how these songs captured the raw emotion of heartbreak across two decades. Whether you experienced these songs when they first released or discovered them years later, their emotional power remains undimmed by time.
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Speaker 1:Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for. By and about Gen X, I'm Nicole and this is my BFF, heather. Hello, so did you have a nice week? I did, it was hot.
Speaker 2:It's hot. It was cranky.
Speaker 1:You guys are making it rain down here.
Speaker 2:Like hella rain, yeah and in.
Speaker 1:Dover. They're like yeah, you're gonna get it. You're gonna get it, Nope, sorry.
Speaker 2:Actually we're supposed to get one. We had actually last night, night before tornado touchdown, real close to here we're recording at my mom's house and we are in dagsborough and, uh, she lost her power sunday, yeah, and it looks like it's clouding up right now yeah, they're promising rain again.
Speaker 1:In dover. It is supposed to rain, so we'll see. It's just a pain in the butt because I love watering the flowers, but in this heat'm like can a sister get a break? Just one day can you rain, so I don't have to water.
Speaker 2:Yesterday it was. I knew it was going to rain, so I did bring my raincoat, but the problem is it's 86,000 degrees Great. And then when you put the rain because my raincoat is Gore-Tex so it doesn't breathe very well, but I brought it and it did rain Hallaciously For like 45 minutes. I did take my lunch break at one point because I was like I can't even drive in this, so I sat in my truck while it poured and they leak. So if you live in an area where it rains a lot, your mail will get wet because every one of those trucks leaks. Sorry, it's just the way it is. They all leak. Plus, I don't know how to stay dry when it's pouring as rain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, that was my week. How was your week? I had a nice weekend. I went to a winery with a friend of mine that I haven't seen in years. Lovely, yes, we each bought a bottle of wine and we each were there. We were there for four hours and we only drank half of each of our own bottles because we were literally talking the whole time nice yeah, so that was awesome and I ordered new eyeglasses, yes, yes, but even better, I had the nicest experience with my eye doctor.
Speaker 1:I just want I'm not going to name the name, but I just want to shout out how awesome the office was, because I went in there and I hadn't been there for a while and there's reasons for that, and I explained to myself and they just treated me with so much compassion and we're really really nice about the whole thing. So in our current climate, it's nice to know there are still really nice people out there.
Speaker 2:You should totally get the glasses I have I'm where you can change them out and then maybe sometime we can get. I should write them a letter because I'm like their number one fan you should. Maybe they'll sponsor the show I know because, because currently I have skulls on mine. And where else can you get glasses with skulls? Exactly, and you can change them every day, exactly. So pair eyewear if you're out there listening, but yeah, it's also cool.
Speaker 1:now they just give you your prescription. I guess, there's so many online people now and I'm so glad they do that, because it was always so awkward. Like I don't want your $600 glasses. Can I please have my prescription?
Speaker 2:I had to get the 600 ones the last time before I got these, because my insurance covered it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I did too. So and my little tax-free health card it re-upped on yesterday. Oh nice yeah.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I know I have a lot. I have a lot online and I think I need to go back to the. They keep sending me an email. I don't know how long I've had these A while. Oh has it, I'm going to get the same ones though, because then I can just keep the toppers. That I have. I'm telling you, I love these stupid things new glasses every day. Yeah, I love that for myself. Yeah, uh, what else that was it?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean just super busy work I forget, we did watch a movie this week oh, I watched dirty dancing the other night, did you? Yes, it was very difficult. It's been a while since I've watched it, uh-huh, and I've become much more informed about a lot of things since then.
Speaker 2:Well, I heard a thing that said when you were a kid, you um identified with baby and as an adult you're like why? Who would let her go out like that?
Speaker 1:yeah, like her father was not wrong. So, yeah, a lot of it. I'm a lot of. It's problematic, but got the soundtrack and it's just so sweet. It really is, except that patrick swayze's 30 and she's 16, but it's also patrick swayze who is a saint, so anyway, it was fun, but that abortion scene was brutal. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We haven't gone well. I don't know if it's out. It's out this week the Jurassic World. I am a huge, okay, Duh yeah.
Speaker 1:I like the dinosaurs.
Speaker 2:However, I don't know we I watched I made us watch about six trailers for it because there was one trail that I saw something and I was like, hold on, that's not a real dinosaur, what is happening? And they don't have feathers why, don't? They have feathers? And there is new debate on the t-rex as to whether or not the t-rex had wings as opposed to that's why it has little teeny arms oh yeah, that makes sense possibly it had wings, but they didn't put feathers on it.
Speaker 2:Why? Why, we all know they had feathers. At this point, they put the fucking feathers on there.
Speaker 1:Must not have looked as good cinematically. It's all CGI Like it's AI.
Speaker 2:We'll put feathers on it. Yeah, I don't know, so I can't decide because I mean, all the rest of it looks good, but then it's this one. It looks like a cross between a dinosaur and an alien.
Speaker 2:Like the alien, the alien from Aliens yeah like the alien, the alien from aliens, yeah, yeah, a face hugger, uh-huh, like the grown-up face hugger. When it came out like they show it in one of the clips, like real quick, and I was like wait a minute, that's alien, come on. As soon as I saw that, I was like I'm out. As soon as I saw that I was like I'm out, yeah, and he was like really and I was like.
Speaker 1:I mean, I have to say I was shocked they released another one they're just gonna bleed.
Speaker 2:That well, I guess yeah, but it's gonna start getting really tacky I mean, there's only so many times you could go back to the island right and get surprised by it yeah, and the original is just so good oh but I saw a thing scarlett johansson was talking about it and she's been trying to get in, apparently to the franchise since she was like a kid on the first one seriously, it took this long for her to get in.
Speaker 1:That's what she said. She's freaking, charlie.
Speaker 2:Charlie's the wrong one. No, oh, what's her face. Scarlett Johansson.
Speaker 1:Oh, her too. Oh, I love her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I always mix those two up too, I know.
Speaker 2:So I don't know. I'm on the fence about it. You know you're going Because you know, once you start on YouTube with the new trailers and they just show one right after another, and then there's apparently, a new. Dracula coming out. Oh, I don't know how I feel about it.
Speaker 1:Who's Dracula?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Oh, it's pre-Dracula. It's Vlad. Oh, who's playing that? I don't know who it was. I don't know who that dude is. I don't know who that dude is.
Speaker 1:I don't know who these people are. Yeah, true, I watch award shows now and I know like 20% of the people that are on there. I'm like who is? That Music and acting. I'm like I've literally never heard your name or seen your face before we finished up the 50th anniversary of SNL last night as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2:And I don't remember it was one of the last ones and I don't remember it was one of the last ones and I was like who is that? Even when it was I don't know the musical guest, some dude that I don't know and he was like you know the song? And I was like I don't know the song and he was like you know the song and I was like do they play it on TikTok?
Speaker 2:And he was like yes, and I was like okay, well, I don't remember who he is, though, but I did know the song, but I was done. We just fast forward through that. So, yeah, we finished that up.
Speaker 1:Well, that's it boring yeah, boring's good. I'll take some boring, alright. So before we get into today's show, I would like to ask anyone listening to please like share rate review. We are trying to build up and we're doing good. Um, our threads is taking off. Our juicy facebook. We've almost doubled our yeah followers in about the past month. Yeah, um, so we're making headway, so we just ask you to hit those little stars right there for us. You can find us wherever you listen to podcasts. You can follow us on all socials, at like whatever pod. We are on YouTube at like whatever, and you can send an email to like whatever pod at gmailcom. So now let's fuck around and find out about breakup songs of the 80s and 90s so excited I try. I mean there's a billion, so I've tried to pick out ones that I like.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's your podcast, you get to do what you want. Yep, fuck everybody else. You don't like it too bad.
Speaker 1:All right, what you want, yep, fuck everybody else. You don't like it too bad, all right. So the first one I want to discuss is every breath you take by the police, which I never actually thought of as a love song.
Speaker 1:It's definitely a stalker song um, like yeah, I don't know where they were really going with that, but um so anyway. Every breath you take to this day is perceived to be a love song. However, the lyrics are actually spoken from a character with sinister intent. As we said, during the time Sting wrote the song, he had just divorced his first wife, frances Tomelty. While his intention may have been to write a sweet, emotional love song from the beginning, he was soon realizing that he was entering into a dark place that fought for control and surveillance. Being in the midst of the Cold War at that time did not help the situation. So is that a spy song? Musically, the track features a minimal arrangement. Sting's bass, stuart Copeland's drums and Andy Summers' guitar round out the basic tracks with added synths, piano and recording effects to boost the production. This was at a time where the band were having conflicts on a regular basis, which almost caused producer Hugh Padshum to quit and the recording to cease. Regardless of the turmoil during the recording, every Breath you Take was a worldwide success. The music video directed by Godley and Cream even won the band the first Best Cinematography Award at the 1983 MTV Video Music Awards.
Speaker 1:The song also stands as the signature song of the police and has been played more than 9 million times on the radio. So I do like that song. It is definitely not the police's best song, by far, no, so I don't agree with that one. I like Roxanne. I love Roxanne. Yeah, I can't even think of. Well, actually, my favorite song by the police is even creepier and it's Don't Stand so Close to Me. I love that song too, I know, which is about an adult teacher and a high school girl, Young teacher, yeah, but the subject oh, such a good song.
Speaker 2:That's how we can sing.
Speaker 1:It was also the best-selling single of 1983 and the fifth best-selling single of the 1980s in the United States. That's crazy talk.
Speaker 1:It was not the fifth best song of the 80s. Winner of the 1984 Best Song of the Year and Best Pop Performance by a duo or group with vocals grammy awards. Uh, number 84 on the rolling stones list of the 500 greatest songs of all time. I don't even know how they compile that list, like every time I hear it like usually the top three, I'm like I could see where you might think that. But how do you choose like?
Speaker 2:I imagine it's what spent the most time on like data.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm thinking like emotionally, I think it's what spent the most time on Like data. Yeah, I'm thinking like emotionally, I think it's probably just what charted the longest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I imagine Thriller would be like or Beat it or Billie Jean or one of Michael Jackson's songs, probably at the number one.
Speaker 1:I think Michael Jackson's always at least top three, if not number one, and it topped the billboard top 100 for eight weeks and the uk singles chart for four weeks I it's funny because, um our friend who has passed, we had a our secret code which is probably not so secret.
Speaker 2:Uh, whenever a celebrity would die and we didn't know, like the other one, we would just text the other one poor Sting, because for a while it was like all of Sting's friends were dying, or like Sting was coming out and speaking on whatever celebrity died. So for the longest time we would just text each other like poor Sting, and then the other one would have to like struggle to find out who died and how it was related to sting I've been binge watching.
Speaker 1:Uh, only murders in the building again. Uh, I haven't seen the final, the fourth season, but I've started at the beginning, which, by the way, if you haven't watched that, it's an amazing show, um, but stings in the first season, um, and he's one of their suspects in the murder and there's an elevator scene with him and it's so funny.
Speaker 2:He's got to be old though.
Speaker 1:He still looks like Sting. I can imagine. Yeah, I don't think he ages. I don't think he does either. All right, so next, again not my favorite song by this band, but it was Not my favorite band. No, I have said this before. Yes, you have, even though you can't tell a reason why I don't have one. Okay, so, with or Without you, by U2.
Speaker 2:I know every word to every one of their songs.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I still can't, because it played on the radio nonstop in the 90s.
Speaker 2:I still haven't found what I'm looking for when I'm listening to U2.
Speaker 1:Yeah, With or Without you isn't I mean, of course, it's a classic U2 song. It was never one of my favorites again, but With or Without you was released as the lead single from the album the Joshua Tree. It was the band's most successful single at the time. It features sustained guitar parts played by guitarist the Edge, along with vocals by lead singer Bono and a bass line by bassist Adam Clayton. The song originated from a demo recorded in late 1985. Love song. The tracks lyrics were inspired by bono's conflicting feelings about the lives he led as a musician and domestic man.
Speaker 2:So where's the love story part in that?
Speaker 1:I can't live with or without you yeah, but he said that the lyrics are actually about how he feels about his life as a musician and his life as a domestic man.
Speaker 2:I can only think of the chorus right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. When I worked for Grottoes and Lewis when I was 18, it was the summer I graduated high school I was a hostess and there was a cute boy waiter that worked there but he had a girlfriend and we would innocently flirt with each other. But he had scored some U2 tickets and he came to me one night and said his girlfriend hated U2 and didn't want to go. Did I want to go? Fuck, yeah, I want to go. So I was so excited. And then, of course, his girlfriend found out and was like no, fuck, no, oh, fuck no, which I understand. I just wanted to go see you too. I didn't want to cheat, but yeah, so I didn't get to go. But he did bring me back his ticket stubs, which is kind of lame, but whatever, I guess he had a crush on me, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh restaurant love.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, All right. Next, a song that has been way overplayed, but I still just love, love love it, I love it, I don't care.
Speaker 2:Yep, I like the extended version.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Every time it comes on, I will listen to it.
Speaker 1:Yep, so we got Tainted Love by Soft Cell. So we got Tainted Love by Soft Cell. Soft Cell's 1981 synth pop hit Tainted Love is a remake of a 1964 Gloria Jones song. I did not know that Jones's song was a B-side to my Bad Boys Comin' Home, a Motown single that flopped Must be why I've never heard of it, and it's a shame that the B-side to that you know of course that didn't do anything. But then another band comes along and makes one of the most popular songs of all time Right, and that's one of the way it goes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, although I do like Marilyn. I struggle with Marilyn Manson. I know he's a horrible human being.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:I don't know that about him. He's a horrible human being, is he really? Yes, um, just awful, uh, anyway, but you enjoy his music, I do, yeah, I do. Unfortunately I do, and unfortunately his cover songs are some of my favorite covers. He knows how to cover a fucking song and he covered, he covered.
Speaker 1:He does a cover of tainted love yeah, and he covers it in his own way. It sounds like a marilyn manson song. Personal jesus, he did I mean any of his covers are just really good yeah I don't actually know any of the words to any of his actual songs I guess I do, but you know the beautiful people, probably, literally, that's like the only one, probably.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was the only one I could think of. All right, so I've seen them in concert. They opened for nine inch nails before anybody knew who they were.
Speaker 1:So gloria jones. Tainted love blew up in the uk's northern soul scene in the 70s after british DJ Richard Searling bought a used copy on a trip to the US. After Tainted Love got a boost from the Northern Soul scene, gloria Jones recorded a new version in 1974, but it failed the chart. That poor lady, she just wasn't in the cards for her.
Speaker 2:She's probably getting paid, though, every time. Hell yeah, she is.
Speaker 1:When Soft Soul decided to give the song a go in 1981, they changed the key and slowed the tempo. They worked with producer Mike Thorne to create the electronic arrangement for the song. Thorne told Sound on Sound, you could smell the coke on that second.
Speaker 2:You really can.
Speaker 1:Northern Soul version. It was really so over-red and so frantic. It was good for the dance floor, but I didn't like the record. When soft cell performed the song, I heard a very novel sound and a very nice voice. So off we went. And I also forgot to add in the beginning that all my information, almost all my information, comes from geniuscom, with a tiny splash of wiki splashed in there. I try not to use wiki, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. All right, this song I chose because you have to.
Speaker 2:It's like against the law to not. I mean, it's like this seriously.
Speaker 1:I have a middle school dance story about this song. Oh good, so that's why it's here. So this one is Total Eclipse of the Heart by Bonnie Tyler. Turn around Every now and then I get a little.
Speaker 2:I'm in so much trouble man.
Speaker 1:I had this 45. And at the very end when she goes, turn around, bright eyes. The second time she says that turn around bright eyes, bright eyes, bright eyes. And for decades, every time I heard that song I heard the skip at the end. When we get to it, I haven't heard it in a long time. Maybe I would still hear the skip, I don't know. But yeah so anyway.
Speaker 1:Total Eclipse of the Heart is the lead single by Welsh singer Bonnie Tyler from her fifth studio album, faster Than the Speed of Night, in 1983. It was written and produced by Jim Steinman and recorded in 1982, released as a single by CBS slash Columbia in 1983. The song, a debut with Rory Dodd, became Tyler's biggest career hit, topping the UK singles charts and becoming the fifth best-selling single in 1983 in the United Kingdom. In the United States the single spent four weeks at the top of the charts, keeping another Steinman-penned song, making Love Out of Nothing at All by Air Supply, also a great song, from reaching the top spot, a song Taylor would later cover in 1995. And it was Billboard's number six song of the year for 1983.
Speaker 1:The song was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance. Its accompanying music video was directed by Russell Mulcahy and filmed in Surrey, england. Worldwide, the single has sales in excess of 6 million copies and was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America for sales of over 1 million copies after its release. Updated to platinum in 2001 when the certification threshold changed In 2015, the song was voted by the British public as the nation's third favorite 1980s number one in a poll for itv her other song hold out for a hero.
Speaker 1:I mean, oh yeah yeah, what movie was that? Was it a tom cruise movie shrek? It wasn't shrek, but I think it was also in, like I don't know, I don't know, maybe not but anyway, my story right.
Speaker 1:So when I was in third and fourth grade I had a boyfriend named Kenny and Kenny had a twin brother named Carl. They were identical twins and I lived like two blocks from the school. And those were the good old days when you just walked home from school and there were no parents or teachers or anybody in sight Right, just were set free to wander and find your way home. Good luck, yeah.
Speaker 1:And they would like follow me but like hide and my mom always knew they were coming home with me and they would come home and come to my house and my mom would like feed us or whatever and they had the cool Donkey Kong like handheld machine looking thing.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, we were at a middle school dance. I must have stayed with Kenny up until fifth grade. That would have been middle school. That's long term. It really was. We were committed. So, anyway, we were at the dance and Total Eclipse of the Heart came on and I wanted to dance with him. So bad, and he refused. So his twin, carl, danced with me, which I thought was so sweet. That is very sweet, yep. So yeah. And then another girl, who turned, ended up being a lesbian, stole him from me and then beat me up in the locker room after she stole my boyfriend. But I don't know, crazy middle schoolers.
Speaker 2:I have my middle school song. What I got to dance with my crush was You're the Inspiration by Chicago. I love it. It's funny how songs that mean like I mean whatever, but like that. Every time I hear that song it's like back in the time zone and I get to dance with my crush.
Speaker 1:All all right, I'm setting you up for a plug here. Don't leave me hanging. The next song is don't you forget about me.
Speaker 2:By simple minds, go for it, okay uh, if you would like to listen to the uh episode that we did on the Breakfast Club, it's number a few and it's called Sincerely Yours, the Breakfast Club, and it's a couple episodes back. Apparently, I didn't put an episode number on that one.
Speaker 1:I don't know what I was doing there.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so you should go back and listen to it.
Speaker 1:Yep, alright. So. Written by Keith Forsey and Steve Schiff. Simple Minds, don't you Forget About Me was released as a single February 20th 1985, and was featured as the main theme of the classic 1985 teen film the Breakfast Club, originally offered to the Fix Brian Ferry and Billy Idol. Can you imagine Billy Idol singing that song? No, me neither. But all declined, idol did, however, record his own version years later.
Speaker 2:You can go back and listen and find him. I don't think.
Speaker 1:I want to. Forsey then asked Simple Minds, who initially refused but eventually agreed per suggestion of their label A&M. It said that the band rearranged and recorded the song in three hours and promptly forgot about it, considering it was just another song they recorded for somebody. The song would go on to top the US Billboard Hot 100 chart, making it's Simple Minds' biggest hit in the US to date, because of the breakfast I was going to say. I mean there's only one reason they just lucked out right there.
Speaker 2:The next one I'm so excited about because it comes from my favorite 80s movie of all time. I don't know why this one's my favorite, but it is.
Speaker 1:I have a fun story about this one too. So this one is If you Leave by OMD. Leave by omd, aka orchestral maneuvers in the dark. Uh, if you leave is a song by british pop synth group orchestral maneuvers in the dark. The track was commissioned by john hughes to be used in the final season of his 1986 film pretty in pink. The track reached international success, managing to enter music charts around the world. In the United States it became the group's highest charting single ever after. It peaked at number four on the Billboard Hot 100 chart Alongside their 1980 hit Enola Gay, which is probably my favorite. Omd song. If you Leave is considered to be one of the band's signature songs. It has had an enduring presence as one of the most distinguished and recognizable tracks of the 80s.
Speaker 2:I just that movie. I don't know why I love that one so much. I love Ducky. I mean, yes, of course, I think I wanted to be Ducky. I think you wanted to be Mollyucky.
Speaker 1:I think you wanted to be Molly Ringwald too, probably because she makes her own in a way she always dress like she dresses kooky in that one she makes her own dress and she's awkward and I know everybody has talked about how hideous that dress is.
Speaker 2:I liked it yeah. I like the little piece around her neck. I just like, I liked it. I like what's little piece around her neck. I don't, I just like, I liked it. I like um. What's her face in it as her her?
Speaker 1:uh, the lady who worked in the um record store and that one had the asian kid in it too no what's that happening?
Speaker 2:that's, that's 16 candles oh that's right, yeah, no, that's what it was.
Speaker 1:Just I mean, when ducky does and, if you get the chance, he redoes that on jay leno, jimmy fallon, one of them, I would probably probably jimmy fallon such a great scene he does, he redoes it and it is all time favorite thing.
Speaker 2:I loved his creepers. I wanted his creepers. I have never had a pair of creepers that shocks me I know, I don't know why I have. I can't get past, I can't let go of the docs to put the creepers on. Oh yeah, I don't know why I really shouldn't be get myself a pair of creepers, but I never had any.
Speaker 1:Um, but I mean man, when we get rich off the podcast, you can buy yourself creepers. I'm going to buy myself white creepers.
Speaker 2:I'm going to wear them. The next one's going to make me sad.
Speaker 1:So no, but my story with OMD is back and I've mentioned this before. But if you haven't memorized all the details of my life so far, I'll refresh your memory. What the hell are you?
Speaker 2:doing.
Speaker 1:Are you even a fan?
Speaker 2:Are you even?
Speaker 1:listening. But when I was 16, I had a pen pal from San Diego, California. Her name was Shelly and she came to visit. She was only like 14, but she was being raised by her aunt, and California is just crazy and much freer than it is here. So they threw her on a plane and sent her across the country to a stranger's house to stay for a couple weeks. Safe the good old days. But she is the one that introduced me to orchestral maneuvers in the dark. She brought a cassette with her. She left it with me Because I loved it so much and I wore that thing out. So yeah, that's what's fun about. Music is just so many memories are attached to it in so many ways.
Speaker 2:So take you back to just a second of time, or just an area like you just know exactly you can, or just an area like you just know exactly you can relive it, you can smell it, you can. It is. It's crazy how that just takes you back to a time and you know everything about like you could have not remembered anything about that for decades. And then one song, just because the next I'll tell you why the next one will stop me in my tracks every time I hear it.
Speaker 2:All right, let's go heather's gonna bring the room down and oh lord, are you gonna cry?
Speaker 1:no good, um, I'm on pills for that, oh great. How's the rage? By the way?
Speaker 2:much better. Really it worked. I yeah, I don't feel like I'm gonna murder anybody well, that's disappointing, but I'm glad you feel that I, I feel, I, I don't feel like that. I really honestly had like rage in my gut, like I could feel it. It was a physical symptom and I don't have that anymore. I still probably could kill somebody, but I don't feel like I'm going to.
Speaker 1:I mean you're not going to turn down an opportunity, never, never will.
Speaker 2:I still get very angry, but I can control a little bit better now. Okay, good, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1:Thanks, hormones. Yeah, I love it when medication works. So In your Eyes. By Peter Gabriel, this song features Senegalese superstar Yusunador singing through the coda. He sings parts of the chorus as translated in his native Wolof Whew, that sentence. That was a sentence. That was too. I should have just deleted that one out. Popular lore holds that this song was written for Rosanna Arquette, who I love. I love her too. I love the whole Arquette clan, and I did not know that. I know With whom Gabriel lived for some time in the 80s and early 90s.
Speaker 1:Gabriel has said that, despite the fact that the song came to be exclusively associated with romantic love in popular culture, he originally wanted to write lyrics that were ambiguously about both romantic love and love of God, a blurring employed in some African music. This song is famously used for the classic romantic comedy Say Anything. That was a good one too. Originally intended as the album's closing track, gabriel instead made it the fifth track, as its placement at the start of side two would make the bass line sound deeper and fuller, thanks to the physical intricacies of vinyl, in which the turntable needle's velocity decreases the closer it gets to the center of the record, resulting in a higher noise floor and reduced sound quality, especially in the lower frequencies. Good to know, that's your little science lesson for today. This was also the case on CD and cassette releases, which did not have this limitation. The 2002 and 2012 remasters, meanwhile, would restore Gabriel's original intention making, in your Eyes, the album closer across all formats.
Speaker 2:So Heather's sad story about this one. God, I know it's gonna bring you down too great. So because I know you people don't memorize- any of our lives, and I don't even know if I've told you this.
Speaker 1:I used to date nicole's brother-in-law I hooked them up on a new year's Eve. Yeah, they had a crush on each other. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so we watched Say Anything a lot, and I said to him once that if we ever broke up, that he was required to bring his boombox and play that song for me.
Speaker 1:Try to get you back. Yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, so sad story real quick. He died, he did.
Speaker 1:Excessively tragically.
Speaker 2:Extremely tragically On my watch. No, oh, I was in Florida. I didn't kill him. I was, however, investigated. Don't tell anybody. It was his fault. It was his fault. It was his fault. That's why.
Speaker 1:I don't drink.
Speaker 2:Anyway, more importantly, every time, I don't care what station it is for still I can still walk in places and that song will come in, come on out of nowhere, like it won't be playing any 80s, it'll be playing like just the weirdest stuff, and then that song will drop it. Song haunts me, it follows me, the fuck around, drives me nuts. That and my immortal, that one, that one, yeah, I can't even listen to that one, but yeah, so peter gabriel follows me around. That's gonna make me sad all the time.
Speaker 2:Fuck you, peter. Gabriel, you're making me sad, but yeah, it will come on. I it's so weird. All the time I can switch channels and it'll come on, and then it'll come on again Totally different channel. Leave me alone, bro. Right, get a life. It's been 25 years. Move on, right, anyway.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Sad story over.
Speaker 1:Yes and scene All right. Our next one is Nothing Compares to you by Sinead O'Connor, which is one of the classic love songs of all time. That song with no connection will make me cry when I listen to it.
Speaker 2:Man, that's a great song.
Speaker 1:And her voice is so perfect for it. Plus, we love her anyway.
Speaker 2:I mean I love Prince and all, but I know it's his song, but man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't even fathom him singing it. And he knew that. Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2:He released it, but it's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hers is the love, and I hate it when people remake it. I'm like stop, yeah, just stop, you can't. There are some things that should not be remade. Yeah, like the movie they did, didn't they? Yes, that's what I'm saying. I watched that the other night too. Not the new one, I refuse. I watched the old one, cow, even though I can recite the whole thing. So anyway, originally written and composed by Prince for one of his side projects, the Family, it was later made famous by Irish recording artist Sinead O'Connor, whose arrangement was released as the second single from her second studio album. I Do Not Want what I Haven't Got, which, by the way, is just a fucking phenomenal album.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Black Boys on Mopeds. Oh my God, I love that song so much, so much. Anyway, this version, which O'Connor co-produced with Nellie Hopper, became a worldwide hit in 1990. A music video which has been described as iconic was shot and received heavy rotation on MTV. That's perfect.
Speaker 2:That's a perfect video too.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:I mean, just everything about that is perfection, I know.
Speaker 1:I know, although, oh my gosh, talk about a perfect video. The other day I was on Spotify and on the playlist came up and came on, untitled, by D'Angelo. Do you know that song? I don't you do. I don't. You don't know me. Maybe you remember the video he was. It was just him from the treasure trail up with no clothes, glistening beautiful black skin. No, I don't remember that. Breeds. No, talk about fine, yeah, right, anyway, I digress, let's see. I digress, let's see. O'connor stated in a 2019 interview that she thought covering the song would make Prince love her. However, the results were quite different. I thought Prince would fall in love with me and it would all be lovely, but he was the most frightening human I have ever met in my life, even more frightening than my mother. I've heard that about him. Yeah, I could see that about him. He was very private for as very famous as he was.
Speaker 1:Very, very weird Yep. All right, I had to include the next one because they are from Philly, motown.
Speaker 2:Philly, oh no, back again.
Speaker 1:All right. So End of the Road by Boyz II Men, which happens to be one of my least favorite Boyz II Men songs. In this song, one of the boys know that his time with his girl is coming to an end, but he isn't ready to let go of her. And can I just tell you that I was today years old when I realized that that song wasn't about a relationship. I think I thought that it is about a relationship. I think I thought someone had passed away.
Speaker 2:That's so hard to say goodbye.
Speaker 1:Oh, all right, Thanks for sending me straight. It's been a busy week. End of the Road was Boyz II Men's first ever number one single, reaching number one on the Billboard Hot 100 charts for 13 straight weeks, which was a record at the time. This song also won two Grammys for Best R&B Performance by a duo or group with vocals and Best R&B Song.
Speaker 2:You know, boyz II Men and Belle Beaux De Vaux did an Eagles halftime show once that I was at. Oh my God, yeah, it was pretty phenomenal. I mean, I did get to see. Montel Jordan with you, which was a highlight of my life. I love that song.
Speaker 1:And that's one of those songs. Every time I hear it I'm like I saw them. I mean, I have told anybody who will listen that I saw him and they're always like oh really, the.
Speaker 2:Bell Bibbed, devoe and Boyz II Men was my standout. I was a huge.
Speaker 1:BBD, bdd. Bell Bibbed BBD.
Speaker 2:ABC.
Speaker 1:BBD, anyway. So East Coast family. Yeah, I wore out that album, or cassette, anyway. Next one One of my all-time favorite singers, all-time favorite songs, both the original and this one I Will Always Love you by Whitney Houston.
Speaker 2:It's so crazy how different, they are, but both great, so beautiful. I mean first of all fucking Dolly Parton, I mean.
Speaker 1:She has lived the life.
Speaker 2:She is an amazing human being.
Speaker 1:And her husband's just there. They're just happy living a normal life. You do know that she is covered in tattoos right. That doesn't surprise me. That rumor is true. I didn't know that, but it does not surprise me at all.
Speaker 2:She wears all the way down to her fingers. She always has yes.
Speaker 1:Because she's got.
Speaker 2:She's not covered in tattoos but she says she has quite a few and they don't really go along with her what she thinks she should be putting out there it's like a butterfly, as I think she does have an image. Yep, and so she covers them all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah all right, so let them go dolly, let them go.
Speaker 2:she also has I don't know if you know this, but she puts out books once a month that are free to anyone yeah, any children. I think anyone can sign up for it. We deliver them all the time.
Speaker 1:I knew she had a children's book thing going on.
Speaker 2:Every once a month, I believe it is, or every couple weeks, I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a really awesome cause. Yeah, I Will Always Love you was covered by Whitney Houston and recorded for her 1992 film, the Bodyguard. The song was originally written by Dolly Parton and released on June 6, 1974. I was a wee little one-year-old as the second single from her 13th solo studio album Jolene, of course the best, dolly Jolene, jolene, jolene, jolene, of course the best, jolene jolene, jolene, jolene. It's such a good song, I know, please don't take away my man. Um houston's cover has since become one of the best-selling singles of all time and contributed to the bodyguard being the top-selling soundtrack of all time. See, this is where the singer carried the movie, rather than the movie carrying the song. Um, that drop, oh god, yeah, oh, I just got goosebumps. You've been thinking about it that's the.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, that that yeah, definitely, and her voice, the range crazy. Um, let me see. Uh, kevin costner, houston's male opposite and one of the film's co-producers, is actually responsible for suggesting this song for Houston to cover in the film's first track release. He brought the original song to composer David Foster, who rearranged it as a pop ballad for Houston. It topped the Billboard Hot 100 for 14 consecutive weeks, beating out Boyz II Men's 13 weeks. At the time, this was the record for the longest number one. It also reached number three on the Hot 100 after Houston's death in 2012. It's so sad.
Speaker 2:That is so sad.
Speaker 1:Bobby Brown just ruined her.
Speaker 2:I don't know there's a documentary on her, and it wasn't just him. Yeah, her family did that to her too.
Speaker 1:Like her. Yeah, that's what she did. So next, I chose this one because another cassette tape that I wore out.
Speaker 2:We were just talking about her. I don't think that she has ever done anything wrong?
Speaker 1:No she is beautiful.
Speaker 2:I mean Stunning, stunning, yes, yeah, her voice Probably prettier than she is, if that's even fucking possible.
Speaker 1:Right. So we're talking about Walking on Broken Glass by Annie Lennox. Annie Lennox fans will naturally wonder if Walking on Broken Glass refers to her long, treacherous love affair with her ex-arhythmics partner, david Stewart. Walking on Broken Glass is the third single by Annie Lennox that appears off her 1992 solo album, diva. It was written by Lennox herself and produced by Stephen Lipson. The song was a major commercial success, reaching number one in Canada, number eight in the United Kingdom and Ireland and number 14 in the United States single charts. The song's theme of scorned love inspired a classic music video Director Sophie Muller pulled from period films depicting the late 18th century, including Dangerous Liaisons and Amadeus. Lennox plays an aristocratic lady trying to regain attention from a former lover, played by John Malkovich, the star of Dangerous Liaisons. Lennox's other love interest is played by Hugh Laurie. The future house star played Prince George on the TV comedy Blackator, blackadder, blackadder, yeah.
Speaker 2:I love Hugh Laurie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that album was also featured in the Demi Moore movie Striptease. Did you ever see that movie? I did. I don't remember that. Well, I remember it because that's when I was bartending in that movie theater that was out, so I've seen it like a thousand times. But when she strips, she dances to Annie Lennox songs from that album. It's really good.
Speaker 2:You know what song is? Just, I mean a love song from Vampire. Have you ever?
Speaker 1:heard that On your way home. Google it Okay, len. Have you ever heard that On your way home? Google it Okay. Lennox recalled this was a wonderful video to create. There were some wonderful people involved John Malkovich and Hugh Laurie before he had an American accent, that was tremendous fun. The idea of it being a period piece like Les Lésions Dangereuses. Thank you Close enough. I would have read it with a Spanish accent, just like I did. You're French. You can speak French, les laisiers dangereux.
Speaker 2:Thank you, close enough.
Speaker 1:I would have read it with a Spanish accent, just like I did when I took French in college. Lennox saw a parallel between the film, where a noble woman plots to take revenge against an unfaithful lover, and this song. The alternative title for Broken Glass could easily have been hell hath no more fury than a woman's. No, that's not the way you say it. Hell hath no more fury than a woman. I thought it was. Hell hath no fury than a woman. I'm sure that I don't think more goes in there?
Speaker 1:I think it probably does, and then we americans just well, I don't want to say that a woman scorned is just like hell. She's worse than hell, so I don't want the more in there right, but it's hell hath no more.
Speaker 2:So hell is not as furious. All right, we're just going to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1:Uh, the video is very wry and tongue-in-cheek. People can take me a little seriously sometimes, but I do actually have a rather radical sense of humor. I bet she does. I bet she has a really dark sense of humor. I bet she does. She's probably just like us.
Speaker 2:I want to know her so bad.
Speaker 1:Alright, so the final one we can't do 80s 90s music without the Britney Spears oh baby. Baby one more time. I just can't watch Britney's videos anymore. So sad. I want to support her, but she is such a wreck I know she breaks my heart.
Speaker 1:It's awful. Anyway, I digress Baby one digress Baby One More Time attained global success, reaching number one in nearly every country it charted in. It also received numerous certifications around the world and is one of the best selling singles of all time, with over 18 million copies sold. Whenever I hear copies sold around the world, it just doesn't sound like that much. All the billions of people in the world and only 18 million bought it. Yeah, like you would think, in the United States, out of 350 million, there would be 18 million that would buy it.
Speaker 1:True, I don't know, those numbers just never sound that big to me. Maybe that was Beckman. Maybe they sell like 50 billion now. This song is the first track on Britney's debut studio album of the same name. It was released as the lead single of the album on October 23rd 1998. It was originally written for TLC, which wouldn't have been bad either, but they turned it down. It earned Spears a Grammy nomination for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance In January 2025,. It amassed one billion streams on Spotify, joining its Billions Club. After Spears' Toxic and I don't care for Toxic I like.
Speaker 1:Toxic. I never really got why it was so popular. I like it. Similarly, the music video reached the milestone on YouTube because she's a child in a Catholic schoolgirl outfit. Yep, anyway, from Charlie XCX 1999 to Anne Marie's 2002, spears. Spears influence is notorious, as notorious as her song continues to be referenced it's universal desire to quench loneliness. Spears confessional vocals and the distinguishable piano riff have made the single transcend generations, crowning it a pop classic.
Speaker 2:Never was I mean, I don't mind. I don't mind, it's Britney bitch. I don't mind Britney.
Speaker 1:Never was a. I was never a huge fan, but I've always tried to be supportive, because her whole life has just been a train wreck. And now, oh god, those videos are terrible.
Speaker 2:I can't believe that you did not put oh, no one.
Speaker 1:Cure song. Yes, you know what?
Speaker 2:And I'm actually so mad at myself right now because while I was Because you didn't put Love fucking Song on there.
Speaker 1:Because while I was creating this, I was like I have to put a Cure song in here.
Speaker 2:Heather will kill me and well, I'll just tell you go for it, love song by the cure it's a love song it is written by robert smith for his wife mary mary, um which, so I don't know why, but I mean I guess I know why because it's my algorithm on everything, but like the cure, shit has been popping out left and right for me.
Speaker 1:It comes up on mine a lot too.
Speaker 2:I belong to a lot of goth groups?
Speaker 1:I don't. Are they making some sort of cult comeback? Well, they just had a new album come out. I knew they had a new album come out and they just toured, which I should have gone.
Speaker 2:I heard it was amazing. I was so hesitant because I saw them outside once and I hated every second of it because they are not good outside. It was terrible.
Speaker 1:Because their music is synth music.
Speaker 2:Although we saw Depeche Mode outside and that was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they put on a fucking good show. I don't care who you are, if you ever get the chance to see Depeche Mode go.
Speaker 2:They do put on one hell of a good show. Yes, it is a good time, from the beginning to the end.
Speaker 1:And you know all the words. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2:It's a yeah. I know you could have put like home.
Speaker 1:Trust me, I could have made this a 10 hour episode.
Speaker 2:Depeche Mode.
Speaker 1:Anyway, another time we will make Love Song.
Speaker 2:Another one Love depeche mode. Um, anyway, another time we will make um love song. Another one was written to his wife, mary, and they have been married man it's it's like 40 years now, and these were actually breakup songs oh yeah, so they didn't break up.
Speaker 1:Thank god okay I'm sure there is one that will make your boys on the cure. Boys, don't cry, love cats.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:We should do.
Speaker 2:I love the cure I have. I have been on it. Well, I was on a Guns N' Roses kick for a couple minutes and I just couldn't get enough.
Speaker 1:Paradise City's my jam.
Speaker 2:Mr Brownstone, yeah.
Speaker 1:And even every rose has its thorn, it's a really pretty song no, it's poison.
Speaker 2:It's poison okay is it yes, it's poison either way, it's all the same. Don't say that, and I love everything by motley crew and home, sweet home, is motley crew and I would have sex with tommy lee.
Speaker 1:they they were supposed to be here. They get all the STDs he has.
Speaker 2:They were here. They were supposed to be here in Ocean City.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2:They dropped out, and who picked up for it? Rage Against the Machine. They had to drop out, and so Rob Zombie took their place. I know I was so sad because I didn't get to go. I was like, well, I would have gone for rob fucking zombie. Yeah, I love rob zombie.
Speaker 1:I don't, I love his movies.
Speaker 2:I don't care if they're just a showcase to show off his wife's ass. He does have a hot wife and she has a really nice ass. And I don't know if you remember the tv show cribs oh yeah, mntv, they did a cribs, oh god, oh, I wanted to live there. Of course you did. First of all, did you know that rob zombie and tim burton are friends and tim burton came over and painted a mural in their kids room shut the fuck up, I will. And so I was like I want to live there.
Speaker 2:And they had a pool, but they had done nothing with the pool, so it was all like grown over and green and he was like, yeah, we don't use the pool. But oh man, that house was just everything that's probably exactly what you want. Exactly, I probably would have the pool, though, but it would be covered, and indoor.
Speaker 1:I don't really see Rob Zombie floating around a pool, although it would be kind of cute, one of those long rafts with his drink and his cup holder you should look up goths in non-goth places. I think I've seen that.
Speaker 2:It's freaking hilarious. And then there's another one. It's um, it's the grim reaper, and they have him in different and he's like floating around in a um is that the guy on um instagram?
Speaker 1:yes, yeah, I've been following him for years, like at the beach and he's on the lifeguards yes, and then he's when he's amazing in the little pool floaty that's a pink flamingo yes, and he's in his little pool floaty that's a pink flamingo.
Speaker 2:Yes, and he's in his little Grim Reaper. He's the best he really is. That's it. That's good, that was really good, thanks. I guess we can just remove the cure because it is not a breakup.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll do one about love songs one time and I promise to include the cure. Well, I mean, we should just do a, okay, um, oh yeah, do an episode on the cure for sure.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and and that's on you my dad calls depeche mode chepesmo.
Speaker 1:We should really do an episode on chepesmo, because we well, there you have the name of the episode.
Speaker 2:We have, we have been to many, many, many, so many so many yeah, we should have gone to this loud.
Speaker 1:They just toured too, I know my first husband was a like he thought he was dave gahan. He did sound. He I was going to say he did could sing. He had a band, uh, for a minute, um, but he would force his voice to sound like dave gahan. I don't know what his voice actually sounds like, but that's what he was trying to mimic and he was very good at it, very good yeah.
Speaker 1:So literally anytime they were around Giving him credit for that, but yes, yeah, that was a little painful, but I'm practicing kindness, credit where credit is due. Yes, yep, I should have thought of that one when I went to parenting classes after the divorce and they were like, come up with like five good things to say about your ex. And I was like I literally can't come up with one. And they were like, no, they were trying to teach you to have nice things to say about them to your children. I just chose to not say anything at all about him to my children. But I was like no, like no, seriously, I can't. And then I started like going through things, like trying to figure it out, and the one dude looks at me and he goes man, he sounds like an asshole.
Speaker 2:I was like, well, yeah that's why I'm here and seeing yeah, yeah, well, we we. The last time we went to see depeche Mode I won those tickets. You did.
Speaker 1:On the radio. On the radio, and that was like at the tail end of winning tickets on the radio. I don't know if they do that anymore.
Speaker 2:I don't know I wouldn't listen to the radio. I couldn't even tell you. But I was imagine that I was every caller. I remember that every number. Finally the guy was like okay, like yeah, I don't know why you should give me nobody's calling.
Speaker 1:That was the time we went to DC and the president was coming through right, oh yeah. And we got stuck in traffic.
Speaker 2:It was George W. I would think it wasn't Obama or Clinton. It wasn't Clinton. It was in the 2000s.
Speaker 1:Was it? I guess we were in college when Clinton was around. It might have been George.
Speaker 2:W, it wasn't Obama.
Speaker 1:We would remember if we were like oh my God, obama was driving by.
Speaker 2:Now that Biden was president, kind of saw that a lot, but he lives here.
Speaker 1:He spends a lot of vacation time here. I'm just excited that we get a presidential library now.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:It's so cool.
Speaker 2:Well, are they going to put it in Wilmington, I guess, or up that way, I'm sure they will. It would be nice if they put it where Hoban. That's where all the fancy stuff is.
Speaker 1:That's where they really should put it. He loves to be there. Yeah, they won't. That property is too valuable.
Speaker 2:Property is ridiculous. Anyway, that's the adult portion of our. How much property has gone up here? That's a whole different podcast, so you can Well first thank you for listening. Thank you so much. You can like share rate. Thank you for listening. Thank you so much. You can like share rate review, please. One other thing I was on, so we're in all these Facebook groups right that talk about podcasting so I can learn things, and everybody is like it takes me four hours to edit and I'm like am I doing something wrong? Because it literally takes me however long the episode is.
Speaker 1:Our listeners are probably like yeah, we can tell. Yeah. Y'all suck, because I literally wrote this an hour before I came down here.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess people get so like hung up on the ums and the ands, but it's conversation.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:I mean, I do cut some of it out.
Speaker 1:I don't know I say some dumb shit. Sometimes you gotta cut out well, and then we stop it right.
Speaker 2:So it's not like we continue and let it roll, like just stop it. Yeah, because we did get, not that you all care, but that's funny, we used to whisper it to each other. We need to stop. We figured out that we don't need to whisper.
Speaker 1:Well, I think what I mean we're just one and done. We're not going to rehearse, we're not going to go back and be like I think we need to. No, fuck that, you get what you get. You don't like it, but hopefully you like it. I hope you like it, even if Heather doesn't care.
Speaker 2:I do care deeply, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:I don't care, I do, I do care deeply. I'm just saying I don't care about editing, right, I just pause it. I know, and all these like podcasting people bug us on, oh my god socials.
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