Hickory Dickory Shock

A bald eagle you’ve never met can still make you cry, and that’s where we start. We talk through the death of Jackie from the Friends of Big Bear eagle cam, what the rescue team shared about her anemia, and why “just let her go” isn’t as simple as it sounds. We also dig into the unexpected upside of a viral wildlife story: real conservation impact, land protected from development, and why even small donations to a raptor rescue or wildlife rehabilitation group can matter.

From there, we slide into the very Gen X whiplash of it all: more deaths in the news, nostalgia, and the way aging makes everything feel closer. Nicole shares a retinal doctor visit that turns into a plainspoken look at macular degeneration, what scans can show, the difference between dry and wet, and the maddening uncertainty of “maybe never” versus “maybe soon.” It’s equal parts dark humor and real-life practicality, because that’s how we cope.

Then we “mess around and find out” with shock comedians who shaped the era: Sam Kinison, Andrew Dice Clay, George Carlin, and Eddie Murphy. We unpack persona versus real life, Saturday Night Live controversy, censorship, free speech, and what still holds up when you replay the classics now. And yes, we end on a story that feels like the universe trolling: ordering a ham and Swiss at Arby’s and realizing way too late it’s corned beef.

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Transcript

Cold Open And Gen X Hello

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Two best friends fucking fast. We're missing two arcades, we're having a blast. Seeing these dreams, be on screens, it was all bad. We'll take you back like whatever.

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Welcome to Like Whatever, a podcast for, by, and about Gen X. I'm Nicole, and this is my VFFF, Heather.

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Hello.

Losing Jackie The Bald Eagle

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So we have some sad news to share.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

I'm a sad clown. She is. I live with my favorite bird. But my my my bald eagle Jackie has passed away. Found out yesterday. Yes, Monday. Very devastating. I'm very upset about it. I'm gonna try not to cry because I've cried several times, especially because all these people keep posting all this like tributes and stuff. I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

So I know I had heard, I think maybe the day before that, the numbers had dropped drastically, and they still didn't know why.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

She had gotten a tr a blood transfusion. They have an eagle at their rescue that is permanently there. He can't be released, and he is their donor. Yeah, poor guy. I know. So he had given her a blood transfusion. Um, but the anemia, they don't know why. They have done like all the the uh tests for any kind of rodent side and all that. So I don't know. She didn't have any like they didn't have any lead, there was no lead poisoning, which is typically where it comes from. Um, but the anemia had just she wasn't gonna come back. And one of the things they did say, which was true, was had they not rescued her, like if she had gone somewhere, because typically they just go away and into the woods somewhere and die. And she has clearly been sick for a while because she was severely underweight. Um, they said that the good thing about this is the all of the humans that have been following her will be able to have closure because had they not taken her to this rescue and she had just been, she would have just disappeared and we would have never known, you know, definitively what had happened. So it we all get closure. They said she, you know, she was gonna die. That they they had they had raised so much money in the time she had got there that she had nine veterinarians to herself. That's how when I said this poor Raptor Center when she died was probably like fuck like this fucking bird. Well, we're gonna get so much hate and like because people are jackasses and we're like they need to let her go and blah blah blah. And the the cam is called Friends of Big Bear. And the lady on there came on and was like, Look, I'm gonna be very graphic with you as to what would have happened if they let her back to her nest. She cannot fly, she would be grounded, coyotes or whatever the fuck else lives there would have ripped her to shreds. They were like, it would have been, or she would have you know just died of anemia, starvation. She was like, it would not have been a pretty death.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

And now we all get closure as to what happened to her, and there's no wondering, did she just leave the area? So I guess, but so will you continue to now and that's another thing. Like the whole point of this camera is so that you can get it, they can find out what you know what what what goes on in eagles' lives when no one's paying attention, you know, and you it's about educating people. Um I think I heard today they said that there aren't, you know, bald eagles used to be endangered when we were kids. Now there's 300,000 of them in the country, so which seem like not as many as I thought there would be. Yeah, I agree. Like I see them a lot, I do too. But 300,000 still seems like not a lot.

SPEAKER_04 4:27

Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

Anyway, um, or maybe they said 400,000. Either way, it's under half a million. So um, so you know, it's it's about educating and when I'm sure I said this before, but the area that they live in, of course, it's a beautiful area, it's Big Bear Lake, and across from where their territory was, was going to be developed in housing and apartments, and like I guess like a marina situation, and we know that all too well here. Well, they were trying they have been trying to raise $10 million for like I think I saw it like six months ago, maybe like back in December, somewhere when they were the eagles, don't go to the nests all year long. They they start coming back in like December. They leave the the two this year's babies left right around the same time she went into the hospital. So about three weeks ago, they left and they leave the area, they're gone, they're done gone. Um, so they then they get to find out, you know, what they do, and then they just take kind of take they don't really come back to the nest at all, really. They have their favorite roost trees, and it's in the same area, but they don't use the nest until like December. Then they start coming back and you know, doing whatever repairs they need to happen through the winter, blah, blah, blah. So now one of the things they'll be able to do is find out whether or not Shadow will stay with the nest because this nest is the nest Jackie was born in. Right. Um, her parents, Ricky and Lucy, um, she was the first, she was actually the first eagle to hatch at Big Bear. Wow. Yeah. So I think that's also a lot of it, you know. Um, and so her and Shadow have been together for eight years. She's 14. Well, it's 14. Shadow's a little younger, but they've been together for eight years. So they've been working on this nest for eight years. And a lot of it too is Shadow was a big I get it, they're eagles. I know. Stop putting people traits on animals. I know. But he was like a big goofball. Like there was a couple of times where he would show up with like, they call it fluff, but it's like um straw and stuff like that to that they keep push down in the nest to make it fluffy or whatever. And he would come and he would just dump it on her head while she was like in the nest, and he would just like dump it on, and then he'd come with a stick and like just put the stick right where he would want it, and she would get up and move the stick to where she wanted it, and they would fight over sticks. And then one time he brought a stick and he wanted her, he wanted to take his turn with the net, because they they take turns sitting on the eggs, and he kept hitting her with a stick until she got up, and then he jumped on them. And I don't know, that it was they were goofy and silly and whatever, you know. But now they'll be able to find out, you know, what what is going to happen. Will one of her chicks come back? I think there's a couple that are still alive that are old enough to have, and then this new eagle has moved in. Not the eagle, she was attacked by two subadults, which really the only thing that that did was put her on the ground where they could get her. So, really, it's but those were subadults, they didn't have the white head. There is one that has been in the area now that is banded, so they will they don't all her information, they know where she's from and all that. And her name is Katie KD1.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

So she's a slut.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Yeah, she's got a purple band, and she's been in the nest, so now they don't know. Yeah, they don't, and she's been seen very close to Shadow. He hasn't been chasing her away, so only will they know in December when his hormones kick in and he's like got to have some babies. So they'll that's an interesting thing. One of the other good things is once she went into the hospital and became national news, where everyone was invested, I guess, they did end up finishing off and raising the $10 million that they needed to buy the land so that that land will remain untouched. Um that's so awesome. Funny how the rest of the money was given by the owners of an AI center. I suppose that's their offsetting, but whatever. I shall not cast judgment. Um and now, you know, when she was in the Raptor Center, they were saying, you know, please stop messaging them. They will give us updates when they can, they're very busy. The most you you can give them money, like donate to them. And they had just a massive amount of money that came in. And ever since they announced her passing, I have seen the donations that have been rolling in, and it is a lot of money. So that's good. I donated $10. Um, and then I found a rescue here, a raptor rescue in Pennsylvania. That's the closest one, and I gave them $10. So that's all I can give.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Yeah.

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And I did one.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

That's how I like to give just little things that I see. Like about a month ago during a heavy storm, I saw in Philadelphia a man. He was probably in like his 60s, and he had had like homelessness and addiction issues and stuff, and he was clean now. And he in his own yard in the city was cooking lunch for homeless people every day. And he had like a tent and some like picnic tables, and uh during one of the storms, a huge tree crashed onto his whole thing. Um, so he had to go fund me. So I gave 20 bucks to that. Like those are the that's where I like to do my charity is things. I'm like, yeah, that's good. This guy does need help.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

Well, and I gave the $10 to the it's the Ohi uh uh Ohi, Ohi, I forget how to say it. It's O J A I and it's in California. Um they I gave them $10 and I was like, you know, they're gonna be getting mad money. And I and I don't, you know, if they I'm I'm sure they need it. Um but then I was like, I really should find one closer because Yeah, that was a good idea. And so I did that. So I don't know. If you care at all about an eagle that was in California that has passed away, maybe find a little raptor group, local raptor chapter, chapter raptor that rehab your poet didn't know that that does good or some conservation or something like there was a um and I know you listened to it, the Don and Mike show. And when um Don's wife died, was very sad because it happened here in Ocean City, and he was asking everyone to give her she was big into animals, and so I I did end up giving to the um Worcester County Humane Society in her honor. So, you know, if you care about a bird somewhere or you know, whatever, just see if you can find it's every bit of con that was another thing, you know, they're developing a lot here and encroaching on a lot of beautiful actually with the osprey nest at Cape Henloop and had an issue this week. An eagle came in and snatched the babies out, yeah. So they lost their babies. I know. Stop watching eagle, stop watching cameras of birds.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Are you talking to yourself?

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Yes, stop doing it. It's nature, it's brutal, it happens, yes. Oh yeah, but you know that's all part of it. So I will be tuning in to find out what happens with shadow.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Yes, keep us posted.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

I will sad, I'm sad, and I feel a little bit better because some people have been posting, like, why am I so fucking upset about an eagle that I've never even seen in person? I'm like, yeah. But now I've gone on about it for 12 minutes. So that's okay. I'm very sad. That's good. I hope it helped. I hope it was therapeutic. It will for now, and then I'll be watching TikToks about and then they have all these memorial TikToks with sad songs. Stop. Killing me, bro.

More Losses And Gen X Nostalgia

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Well, staying on the topic of death, it doesn't sound like President Joe Biden is going to be with us for much longer. Um, it's very upsetting news. I'm really upset he won't get to see his library. That makes me sad. I know that really sucks. I know. But yeah, Hunter has been saying he's in a lot of pain, it's progressing quickly. Yeah, it's hard to watch. So it sounds like I know he has.

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They were here, I want to say around the 4th of July. Um Jill was at the outlets.

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I was gonna say, I think I even saw a picture of Jill with somebody like on the boardwalk, but not him.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Yeah, I don't know if he was here. I know she was because she was at the outlets, but he might have just come and stayed at the house. He probably probably has to. And I uh honestly, I imagine that that is where he will spend the rest of his that would be a lovely place to do it. It's a gorgeous area that he lives in. It is, unfortunately, due to whatever stop building in areas that you shouldn't fucking be building in. Yes, exactly. Eagles die that way. It's terrible.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

And one more death. Cooter. Oh, I know I saw that. Duke's a hazard passed away. My first thought was I didn't know he's still alive because that show is really old. And of course, he was probably like 20 in that show, but he was playing like a 50-year-old, so everybody was so much younger back then than they looked. So there's a Gen X one for us. Um I did see that.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

I'm not as upset over Cooter dying as a bold eagle, and I don't know. See, that I don't know what that says about me. Okay, but because I probably watched him just as much as I watched an eagle from Big Bear, but you know, recency biased.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

I don't know. I think I just don't like people. Yeah, that that too.

Retina Scans And Macular Degeneration

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I went to the retinal doctor yesterday for my annual checkup.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

I have I go to Thursday.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

My eyes are still well. This year he said I have the eyes of someone 50 years older than me. So that would make it 103. It's not a good direction to go in. It's very hard to get information out of him because he's a dorky retinal doctor. So I try to ask questions and he just can't dumb it down enough for me. But I did learn that there's I have pictures to show you later, but behind the retinal, there's a scan, a line, like an orange line that goes around behind the retinal. Yeah. And it's just a nice straight orange line. Mine is like wavy chaos. It looks like an earthquake. So, and I found out those are all bumps. And but I have 2020 vision with my glasses on. Oh, that's good. Like he's just totally perpet perplexed by my eyes. And the so there's dry macular degeneration and wet wet. And the wet is the bad one. But now I understand what the wet is. The bumps eventually could cause a blood vessel to per burst. And when that happens, that's what makes it wet, and that's when the blindness starts.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Is that because blood gets in the way, or or it just breaks the blood and then it never repairs itself? Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

I'm lucky I got that much out of it.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Yeah. So what will happen with your eye? You just will go blind.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

So macular degeneration, you have perfyl vision still. So maybe the blood fills the retina.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

Oh, so you can see it. That's weird.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

Yeah, that's how my grandma was like, because it skips a generation too, apparently.

SPEAKER_03 16:45

Oh, awesome for you.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Yeah, I know. Um, but I remember like she would hold if I showed her pictures, because that's back in the day when we had paper pictures, she would like hold it up, like look straight ahead, but hold it up to the side of her eye so that she could kind of see. So yeah, good times.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Sounds fun.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

I can't wait to go blind. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

I have the eye doctor on Thursday, and I'm I desperately need a new prescription.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

Don't need that. They well, I have 2020 vision with my glasses. I haven't been to the doctor in a while, and I haven't let them do the dilation because they I was headed for macular degeneration also, and I don't need to know.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Yeah, I mean, there's not any reason to know. No, he can't give me any predictions, it's not like oh, the way it looks within a year, or I could live my whole life and not go blind. So I don't know. But he sure does like to hype it up and make it feel kind of scary. He really he's just like, I just can't believe the way that looks. He's like, that's like an ancient eye. So there are hundreds of bumps on each one, and you're it's just little back there.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

I know. Just gen genetics, huh?

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Yeah, I guess. Yep, interesting. Lucky me.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

You are lucky.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

All right. I think we're done with all that, all our bad news for today.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Yeah, bummer. Debbie downers today.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Yeah. All right.

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unknown 18:41

Yeah.

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All right.

Shock Comedians Setup And Ground Rules

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Let's fuck around and find out about shock comedians. Oh. Oh. All right. And my resources this week are biography.com and wiki. All right. So obviously these are Gen X shock comics. And it was hard to pick. Like this first one I'd already thought of, the second one I'd already thought of. But when I looked at the list, I was like, shoo, we were listening to lots of raunchy people back in our day.

SPEAKER_04 19:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Like you can't even get away with saying that shit anymore. No. All right.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Can I guess which one of them is gonna be?

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Yeah, you didn't look. Nope. All right, which one's first?

SPEAKER_03 19:26

I don't know who's first, but I know which one is on the list. Okay. Jack and Jill went up the hill.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

That is correct. But you gotta wait first and hear about Sam Kinnison.

Sam Kinison Fame And Fallout

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Oh, Sam Kinnison. This story is interesting. I was never a fan. Me neither. Not my kind of comedy, but he was wildly popular. Yes. Um and don't answer this question, but did you know how do you know how he died?

SPEAKER_03 19:56

I do.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

You do? I didn't know. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

I think I know. I'm not gonna answer it, but I think I know.

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All right, when we get there, you can tell me if you were right okay. Okay. Known for his crass humor and trademark scream, Sam Kennison received his first break from comedian Rodney Dangerfield.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

Also not a fan.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

Also not a fan, no, except for in um Caddy Shat. Oh, and uh the scene where he gets killed in um Juliet Lewis and Oh Natural One Killer. Yes, that one that's one of my favorite scenes of all time in a movie. So um all right, his job.

unknown 20:37

Oh my god.

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His popularity grew, earning him appearances on late night with David Letterman and Saturday Night Live. In 1988, Kennison received a Grammy nomination for his comedy album. He died in a car accident. Not what I guess on April 10th, 1992, at the age of 38. You thought drugs, didn't you? I did. Yep, that's what I did too. When I read that, I was like, Are we sure that's not a Mandela effect?

SPEAKER_03 21:06

I just watched a great show about Mandela effects, by the way. I think it was on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

I just recently saw a Gen X meme that said you did not see a movie called Shazam.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

Yeah, you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

It didn't exist. It doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

No. There's a bunch of them on this show that I was like, hold up. Yeah. What? What? No. Because he doesn't say, Luke, I am your father. No. There's a that Forrest Gump does not say life is like a box of chocolates. There's another one too that I was like, wait a minute. And they have a great theory. Anyway, no, I'm not going to talk about Mandela effects because I thought I should do an episode on it because there were so many that I was like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

You really should. Didn't you do? We talked about it online.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

On the Mandela. Oh, the Mandela episode.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

We yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

But there's some interesting theories on it. And it all has to do with CERN. Concern ripped open the timeline.

unknown 22:04

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

All right. Actor and comedian Sam Kinison was born in Yakima, Washington on December 8th, 1953. Kinison stunned and amazed audiences with his intense comedic performances. No topic was off limits for this controversial comic, and his sharp barbs were often punctuated with his trademark primal scream. People know I'm triple X rated. Obviously, I'm not a role model for impressionable youth. No. Kinison told People Magazine. He's not wrong. Triple X is something we don't X-rated isn't something we talk about anymore either. No. I guess it's not a rating anymore. Now it's just porn. It's an NC17.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

Well, that's R. Oh, that's above R. And then there's just porn. And then there's just porn. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Um, the son of a preacher, Kinison spent much of his childhood in Peoria, Illinois. Kennison Kinison was only three years old when he was hit by a truck, which left him with some brain damage.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Oh boy. He we're lucky he didn't turn out to be a serial killer. I know. Washington, state, preacher father, head injury. Man, that could have gone two ways.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

At the age of 12, he experienced another type of trauma when his parents divorced. I know. Really could have gone perfect. Speaking of serial killers, ID has it's new to me anyway. I don't know if it's a show that's been on there, but I watch a lot of it and I haven't seen it. So, um, but I don't think this is what it's called, but it's like lesser-known serial killers. Yeah. And some of it is like really crazy. Like, yeah, there have been a lot of serial killers. Well, I I think it's and I don't understand why some are famous and some aren't.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

I did the serial killer episode, I don't remember what it was called, but um, yeah, it was what like there was 800 of them at one time. And then now, currently, they think there's only like less than a hundred operating.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

It's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

Um what a time to be alive. We grew up in the serial killer era. Lucky us. What was the name of that episode? Oh okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Sam and younger brother Kevin stayed with their mother while older brothers Richard and Bill went to live with their father. School held little interest for Kennison, probably because he had a brain injury. For real. In his early teens, he was quite rebellious, cutting classes and engaging in some shoplifting. Kennison was sent to a religious boarding school called the Pinecrest Bible Training Center in Utica, New York when he was 15. What was the name of it?

SPEAKER_03 24:45

Yes, Virginia, there is a boogeyman.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Great title.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

It is. Yeah. Thank you. You always, every time.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

I you're so good at it. I don't know about every time, but when I get a good one.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

Yeah, yeah. Uh he discovered a passion for music and taught himself how to play guitar around that time. After that school year ended, Kinison returned for a brief stay before striking out on his own. He spent a few years wandering around the country. After his father's death in 1972, Kinison decided to become a preacher, which is hilarious if you think about it. Uh his older brothers were already preachers, and Kinison had some had sometimes played music for them during their sermons. While he took his religious calling seriously, he still had a great sense of humor and was a big admirer of Richard Pryor.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

I could imagine that he probably would have made a very good cult leader.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

Yeah. He did kind of have a cult following. Yeah. It was very specific type of humor.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

Yeah. Him and who was a guy that taught like that. Gilbert Godfrey. Yes. God, I couldn't stand him. I couldn't stand the persona of Gilbert Godfrey, yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Why is he a good person? I don't know. I but I I've seen him on other things where he wasn't Gilbert Godfrey.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

Was his voice still annoying?

SPEAKER_03 26:07

No.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Okay. Um, at the age of 21.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

Bobcat, too.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Oh yeah. Well, Bobcat was in the police academy movies, so that's what I'm saying. But he was as by Bobcat.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

He was in blue, not as Bobcat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. He has a great story about him being in a room with Paul Rubens and Johnny Depp. And he said when he was sitting there, he was thinking, I'm the only one of us that hasn't been to jail, which is weird. And then he said, You cannot imagine how handsome Johnny Depp is in person. He was like, I'm not gay. Don't even have he was like, God damn, that man is handsome.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Did you see he's playing um Johnny Depp? Ebenezer.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

I did.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Is it Tim Burton? No. Oh, okay. Are you still gonna watch it? Yeah. Okay. At the age of 21, Kinison got married for the first time. The union was a brief and unhappy one. By 1977, Kinison was preaching in a rough section of Chicago, but he soon abandoned the ministry to pursue his dreams of becoming a comic. He traveled to Houston for a comedy workshop the following year and ended up staying there. By 1979, Kinison was one of the city's top stand-up performers, knocking out audiences with his rants about marriage and religion. He was often a featured performer at the comedy NX. One night, Rodney Dangerfield caught Kennison's act and gave the young comic some encouragement. After twice being named the funniest man in Texas by the Dallas Morning News, Kinison decided to move to Los Angeles in 1980 to advance his career as a comic. He ended up struggling for several years, however, as he tried to break into the comedy scene there. Initially performing for free, Kinison became a regular fixture at the comedy store where he met and eventually befriended his uh such comics as Robin Williams and Jim Carrey. Robin Williams was another one on the shock list. Yes. Back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

He was very raunchy. Oh, yes. You know who else was? Bob Sagitt. Yes. Very raunchy. Nasty. He has the absolute nastiest the the aristocrats joke, hands down.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

Yep. He is nasty. He would I wish I could remember because shortly after he left um America's Funniest Home Videos, which is what everybody knew him from.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

And that in Full House, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

He was in like a movie or something, and he was yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Well, I can't remember what it was. People would go see his comedy because he was on Full House in America, and then they would be like, What is happening right now? What is going on? They had Dave Collier was on something after Bob Sagitt died, and he was like, People were shocked when they would go see him.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Yeah, it's crazy how tame his career was with his nasal.

SPEAKER_03 29:07

With his nassius his humor was.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Around this time, Kinison wed Terry Mars, uh, which proved to be another challenging relationship for him. The couple separated after two years, but they did not officially divorce until 1989. Dangerfield gave him his first big break, giving him a spot on his HBO comedy showcase. The special ran in 1985, and Kinnison, with Kinison taking over the nation's airwaves for several minutes to share his comic rants about marriage and world hunger. He was warmly received by viewers who had never seen anyone quite like the husky beret wearing comic with the razor-sharp wit.

unknown 29:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Before long, Kinnison was making appearances on Saturday Night Live and Late Night with David Letterman. I remember him on Letterman. I don't know if I remember him on Saturday Night Live.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

I don't either.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

I was gonna say, if it was in the 80s, I was still a little little for.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

I'm still a little little now to watch. I have to watch Saturday Night Live on Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

I'm a little little. I know I never catch it, but well, sometimes on Saturday night I can catch the 10 o'clock episode. Sure. Before the other one. But the past couple weeks, not the past couple weeks, the past couple times I've been awake that long on a Saturday. It's been reruns with people I don't like.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

Yeah. And I hate that. I just go on a whatever peacock and watch them. I can't be up that late. Even though my day off is Sunday, I still can't be up that late. No. That's crazy. That's crazy late.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

The following year, Kennison released a successful comedy album, Louder Than Hell, and entertained moviegoers with his small role in the Dangerfield comedy Back to School. He played a college history professor who snaps in the film. That fall, however, Kennison's bash style of comedy landed him in hot water with television censors. Before his appearance on Saturday Night Live in October of 1986, the censors told him not to do his routines about the war on drugs and religion. Kinison, always the rebel, ignored their request and did his act just as he originally wanted to. Imagine that. Not the only time that's happened on there. While the East Coast audience got to hear his comments, the NBC television network changed the program for its West Coast broadcast. That's why the East Coast is better.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Eastside.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Still, the remarks caused quite a stir, leading the show's producer Lauren Michaels to ban Kinnison from Saturday Night Live. Again, not the only one who's been banned. No. Michaels later reversed his decision after the network was inundated with letters and calls from Kennison supporters. They told Lauren to get his hands. Suck it, but get over it. Suck it up, buttercup. Kinison aspired to make it in films, but he did not have much luck after back to school. His role in the comedy Three Amigos ended up on the cutting room floor, and his plans to star in another film ended up being scrapped. On the small screen, however, he did well with his first HBO special, Sam Kennison, Breaking the Rules. Away from the spotlight, Kinison became known for his hard partying lifestyle. He was known to drink in excess and use drugs. For much of his career, Kennison lived more like a rock star than a comic, wrote his brother and manager Bill Kennison in his book Brother Sam: The Short, Spectacular Life of Sam Kennison. Kennison was also known for his outrageous appetite for women and had romantic alliances. Dalliances? Well, it's alliances with a D on the front. I'm not even reading it. With the likes of Jessica Hahn, Penny Marshall, and Beverly D'Angelo over the years. One to uh one to bear a grudge, Kennison feuded with fellow comedians Bob Cat Goldwaith and Whoopi Goldberg, among others during his career. Whoopi was also on that list of shock comics.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

I don't remember her early stuff. I don't remember her. I only remember her from the HBO um when they did the homeless thing every year. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Uh considering his long-standing interest in music, it was not surprising when Kennison decided to fuse his comedy with rock and roll. His cover version of the Trog single Wild Thing was a hit in 1988, and the video was played frequently on MTV. That same year, Kinison received a Grammy Award nomination for his comedy album, Have You Seen Me Lately. Not everyone found Kinison funny. It wasn't just us.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

But not because he was wrong, it was not my question.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

No, definitely not. I think it was the screaming. I was definitely the screaming for me. Some were put off by his crass and crude style, while others objected to some of the topics he chose to discuss in his act. Many found his rants about women to be offensive. Nothing caused as much controversy as his jokes about the disease AIDS. He received death threats, and some of his appearances were picketed. Around the time Kennison settled a lawsuit with United Artists over his earlier failed film. He received another blow when his younger brother, Kevin, committed suicide in 1988. He had a very tragic life.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

I'll say.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

Despite his personal challenges, Kennison continued with his hectic stand-up comedy tours and released his third album, leader of the band, B-A-N-N-E-D, to mixed reviews. The critics praised his comic routines, but they largely panned his musical efforts, which included covers of such rock classics as Highway to Hell and Mississippi Queen. Kinison experienced some difficulties in his personal life. According to the book Brother Sam, he had several car wrecks in 1990 because he was driving while intoxicated.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

Get out.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

His longtime girlfriend, Malika Sori, was reportedly raped in the Los Angeles home they shared by a man the two had met at a club earlier that evening. Oh my boy.

unknown 35:03

I know.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

Sorry shot at her attacker several times using one of Kinison's guns. Kinison was unaware of what was happening at the time because he was passed out in another room in the house. While he never completely quit using drugs or drinking, Kinnyson did cut back on his outrageous behavior in his final years. He even tried Alcoholics Anonymous for a time. Trying to revive his sagging career, Kinnison made a guest appearance on the sitcom Married with Children, which earned stellar ratings. He soon began negotiating with the Fox Television Network to appear in his own sitcom.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

I don't remember him on Married with Children.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

I don't either. Kinison starred as the boisterous miniature alter ego of a middle-aged accountant on Charlie Hoover, which premiered in November 1991. While the show only lasted a few months, it helped reignite interest in Kinnison. He was reportedly negotiating a two-film deal with the New Line Cinema when his career came to a tragic halt. On May 5th, 1992, Kinison married his girlfriend Sori in Las Vegas. The couple honeymooned in Hawaii for a few days before returning to California so that Kinison could make it to a gig in Laughlin, Nevada. Kinison and Sori set out for Laughlin on April 10th, with Kinison's brother Bill and several others following them in a van. About 200 miles east of Los Angeles, Kinison's sports car was hit by a pickup truck driven by a 17-year-old. He was conscious briefly after the accident. According to Brother Sam, Kinison's final words were, Why now? I don't want to die. Why? Which gives me goosebumps. Yeah, that's pretty sad. He then stopped breathing, and efforts to revive him proved unsuccessful. At the age of 38, one of America's most distinctive comedians died from his injuries.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

He was only 38.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Right.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

Wow. I know. He did not look like he was only 38.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

He always looked like he was 38. All

Andrew Dice Clay Persona And Backlash

SPEAKER_02 37:03

right. You guess the next one. The dice man? Yep.

SPEAKER_03 37:07

I have a love hate with the dice man. I do too. I don't know. I think it's because I get the joke. I think that's what it is. I think I feel like I get the joke.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Exactly. Plus, he was in Pretty in Pink. He was in a lot of things, yes, actually. Yes. I think that's why I like I think that I don't even hate his comedy.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

And this is like a nostalgia for me. We were probably like, let's see, when was he popular? Uh in the nine in the late 80s, early 90s. So I was in high school and I had a lot of guy friends, and of course, all teenage boys loved him. Yeah. So hearing them all banter back and forth and tell his jokes and his little one-liners, like that's what I think of when I think of him. So I think and he never did anything to really offend me.

SPEAKER_03 38:02

I think that's just I think that I think I think that's what it is. I think I just got the joke. Yeah, yeah. All right. That's not none of you. I've never found any, I've never been like, oh no. Clutching my pearls at any comedian or anything. Like I just whatever. I mean, no.

unknown 38:21

Whatever.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

I have seen comedians, and I can't think of anything off the top of my head where they say something, and I'm like, oh my God. And it's happened to me on um South Park too. Yeah. Sometimes their jokes, I'm like, wow. Like, I'm not offended, but I'm just like, holy cow, I can't believe you went there.

SPEAKER_03 38:37

There's been some RuPaul's drag race where I'm like, what did you just say? Oh my stars. I wasn't offended, but I was like, blushing a little bit, maybe. You said that on TV. On the TV.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

Yeah, good for them though. And Tosh Poinot, remember that show? Yeah. He used to say some really bad stuff.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

And that's another one. I get the joke. Exactly. I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

I was happy to see he still does stand up because he's on TikTok a lot. Something I thought I I haven't seen him since he had his show, and I'm like, man, did he get canceled? Because he totally could have been canceled. Um, but yeah, I don't know. I guess he just doesn't do anything on TV anymore. But yeah, he was funny as hell. I loved him. Yeah. Um, Andrew Clay Silverstein was born September 29th, 1920. That's why day after your birthday. Day after my birthday. Yeah, of course. Known professionally as Andrew Dice Clay is an American stand-up comedian and actor. He rose to prominence in the late 1980s through The Dice Man, a leather-jacketed, hyper-masculine stage persona whose profane nursery rhymes and routines about sex, gender, and ethnicity attracted both a large audience and widespread criticism.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

Also, my dad used to say the little Miss Muffet all the time.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. We're going to get to my dad's favorite next. Not Andrew Dice Clay. Um, contemporary critics and advocacy groups frequently described the material as misogynistic and homophobic. Again, we got the joke. Like so, yeah, you still can't do it now. But no, he was a persona. Clay maintained. Clay maintained that the character was an extravagant performance distinct from his personal private personality. In February 1990, Clay became the first stand-up comedian to sell out Madison Square Garden on two consecutive nights. His first comedy album, Dice, in 1989, was uh certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America. And the day the laughter died in 1990 reached the top 40 of the Billboard 200. That year he hosted a controversial episode of Saturday Night Live and starred in the comedy mystery film The Adventures of Ford Fairlane.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

Remember, yes. That was the one where he tore up the picture of um Sinead O'Connor, wasn't it? I think so, yeah. That sounds right.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Uh Clay later received praise for supporting performances in Blue Jasmine, A Star Is Born. Uh, the cast of A Star Is Born, including Clay, was nominated for the Actor Award for Outstanding Performance by a cast in a motion picture. He starred as a fictionalized version of himself in the Showtime comedy series Dice, which ran for two seasons from 2016 to 2017. His later roles include the miniseries Pam and Tommy, the sports drama Warrior Strong, and the action comedy The Pickup, which I don't know any of those.

SPEAKER_04 41:42

I don't either.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Um Clay was born Andrew Clay Silverstein, I already read that um in the Sheep's Head Bay neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York. Really? He's from Brooklyn. Get out. Never in a million years. His parents were Jacqueline and Fred Silverstein. His father was a boxer and real estate agent. And Clay was Clay has one older sister. He was raised Jewish, in case you didn't know by Silverstein. Um Clay began entertaining relatives with impressions when he was five and took up the drums at seven, influenced by big band music. He attended James Madison High School. During the 1970s, he worked as a drummer at weddings and bar mitzvahs in the Catskill Mountains, performing under the name Clay Silvers. That's a pretty cool name too. Yeah. Um after returning to New York, he attempted unsuccessfully to form a big band. He briefly attended college before leaving to pursue entertainment full-time. Clay has cited Elvis Presley, Fonzi, John Travolta, and uh Sylvester Stallone as formative pop culture influences. No. Again, never would have guessed. Never. Clay began his stand-up career in 1978 when he was when he auditioned at Pip's Comedy Club in Sheep's Head Bay, which turned into a headline spot at the venue the next week, billed as Andrew Clay. His act was mainly impressions, including a character named The Dice Man, based on Jerry Lewis as Buddy Love from The Nutty Professor, which transformed into John Travolta's character Danny Zuko from Greece. It took him three weeks to prepare the act. A picture of him on stage during his early sets at Pips was described in a baggy white shirt, pants rolled up to his knees, and a pair of thick glasses, with a black leather jacket underneath the shirt, so he could seamlessly switch to his Travolta character when the lights went out. With his new act, Clay graduated to larger and more prestigious comedy venues, including The Improv, Catch a Rising Star, and Dangerfields. He recalled his father being supportive of his act during one performance at Dangerfields. Fields. He knew it was different right off the bat. He saw it worked. The persona was more of a shock to his mother, but she got used to it and he recalled her laughing at his jokes.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

She got the joke.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Yeah. But I can't imagine a little old Jewish mother. That's some pearl clutching out there.

unknown 44:18

That is.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

In 1980, Clay had moved to Los Angeles and landed work at the comedy store owned by Mitzi Shore. His sets were not an instant hit, and because of his dirty act and her unwillingness to have other comics follow him, Shore had Clay perform at late hours, making him wait and perform for 10 drunks. In 1982, Clay landed his first film role in Wacko. In 1983, Clay added the Diceman moniker to his name and no longer relied on impressions, instead, he created an alter ego based on his heroes. He first used the act at the comedy store after he was asked to fill in for a comic who cancelled their spot. He said, I didn't have my Jerry Lewis stuff with me, so I just winged it, saying whatever popped in my head. Clay's performances at the venue led to his first sitcom role with appearances on MASH. Right? I think I do remember him on that. I don't. Different strokes. Don't remember that one. Uh full-length films making the grade. That sounds familiar. Pretty in Pink. Pretty in Pink. Yeah. Of course. I love that one. And Casual Sex. Don't remember him in that.

unknown 45:32

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Uh, a review by Los Angeles Times critic Michael Wilmington described Clay's character Vinny Falcone as a macho bozo from Jersey. Uh, from 1987 to 1980, no, 1986 to 1988, he had a regular role as Max Goldman on Crime Story. Don't remember that. I don't remember that either. We were just kids though. True. Well, teenagers. We had better stuff to do. You probably wasn't allowed to watch murder shows then. No. I remember I wasn't allowed to watch um what was that show? Hill Street Blues. My parents would always go in their room to watch it. I was like.

SPEAKER_03 46:10

My mine didn't watch stuff like that. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what they watched. I can't. Music. Your parents just listen to music. Yeah. Godzilla. We watched a lot of Godzilla.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

A lot. Zach included a drum solo as a tribute to Buddy Rich. Clay then pursued stand-up comedy full-time as the dice character. Clay's breakthrough came in 1988 when he performed at an all-male Big Brother Association dinner event with all of Hollywood's royalty, dressed in tuxedos, and I showed up in a black leather jacket with a flag on the back that said rock and roll. The set was a hit. The next day, 20th Century Fox offered him a film deal and entered talks with producer Joel Silver. Also in 1988, Clay performed a seven-minute set at Dangerfield's in New York City for Rodney Dangerfield's HBO stand-up showcase, special Nothing Goes Right, launching him into National Spotlight. In January 1989, Clay's HBO special, The Dice Man Cometh, appeared on HBO. I do remember that. It became a top video rental according to Entertainment Weekly. In March, he released his debut album, Dice, which was certified gold by RIAA for selling over 500,000 copies. The appearance included his explicit versions of nursery rhymes and led MTV to describe him as banned for life from the network. The ban was later lifted. In December 1989, Clay performed two unadvertised, largely improved sets at Dangerfield, which were recorded for his second comedy album, The Day the Laughter Died, produced by Rick Rubin. In February 1990, Clay became the first stand-up comedian to sell out Madison Square Garden for two consecutive nights, drawing a combined audience of approximately 38,000. When Clay was booked to host Saturday Night Live on May 12, 1990, cast member Nora Dunn announced that she would not appear because she objected to his routines and scheduled musical guest Sinead O'Connor withdrew for the same reason. Which Sinead, okay, whatever, like that's different. But Nora Dunn, you're a comedian too. Like get over yourself. You've heard you probably worked with uh Eddie Murphy. You'll be okay. Protesters interrupted Clay's opening monologue and were removed from the studio. NBC used a short broadcast delay to remove some language, although one anti-gay retort aired. The broadcast was among the highest-rated episodes of the show's 15th season. Clay first met his agent Dennis Arfer at uh Danger Fields, which led to his first HBO special, and ultimately his starring role in the 1990 film, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane. Uh he is featured on the front cover of the April 1991 issue of Penthouse, becoming the second man to front the magazine after George Burns. I mean, didn't see that one coming. George Burns is pretty cool. Well, um, he's another one. He was 107 our whole entire lives. Like he was never young. No, which just makes the penthouse thing gross. Um, footage of Clay's shows at Madison Square Garden were used to produce his 1991 stand-up concert, Dice Rules. His controversial act affected the number of venues willing to screen the film. Um, let's see. In 1993, ABC dropped a proposed one-hour television drama that was to feature Clay after management deemed him too controversial. Clay had signed a one-year deal with ABC that kept him from working with other networks. Uh, let's see. In 19 in July 1993, Clay released No Apologies, the first stand-up concert pay-per-view special. I didn't know that. It was purchased by over 250,000 homes and was the highest-grossing non-sport pay-per-view event of the year. It was to feature Joey Budafoco, but the plan was dropped on his attorney's advice after the publicity it attracted. Uh not gonna say anything about Joey Budafoco. He could be his own one episode, oh yeah. And will be. Uh, in 95, he signed a deal with CBS and producer Bruce Helford, resulted in his starring role on the sitcom Bless This House.

SPEAKER_04 51:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

Was that a comedy? Uh-huh. I don't remember that. In the mid-1995, in mid-1995, Clay explained that the Dice Man character had sort of gone out of hand, which he felt happy about because it allowed him to pursue more television and film work. The situation led to a change in his stand-up act, focusing more on being a husband and a father, yet still with an edge. Um, let's see. All right, next is my dad's favorite. Oh, you might want to do your diary. Oh yeah.

Nicole’s Diary Sawyer Brown Memory

SPEAKER_02 51:59

All right, so now it is time for Nicole's diary. Nicole's diary. Woop woo. Um, it's October 17th, 1985.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

She would have been six. No. 1985.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

No. Tonight, me, mommy, Anthony, who has a lot of hearts around his name, so we love that crush on Anthony. Um, my stepdad and my sister went to see Sawyer Brown in concert at the Price Honda in Dover. Do you remember the band Sawyer Brown?

SPEAKER_03 52:37

I I do. I'm confused as to why they were at the Price Honda in Dover.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

So I don't know. Like, I remember this, like, this was a big deal to me because we watched um Star Search, and that's where they got their start. They were a banned on Star Search. And so I was like, diehard. And then yes, I remember you know where Price Honda is. I do. Yep. Just off to the side of the building, right there in the parking lot. They set the stage up next to the the car dealership, and we were just out in the parking lot. I know, I know, but I remember it clear as day. It really happened. And now I have proof. It's just now I have proof. It's in writing.

SPEAKER_03 53:16

That's odd. It's an odd place to have a concert. Not the state fair or I'm trying to think of any kind of an arena in Dover, which there is not. I mean, now we have like Hudson Fields. Yeah, like now we have like Hudson Fields and uh the one the other one that I couldn't remember the name of the other night.

SPEAKER_02 53:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:45

Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 53:45

Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 53:46

Freeman Stage. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

I worked there. You did. All

George Carlin And The Seven Words

SPEAKER_02 53:50

right. My next one is my dad's favorite, George Carlin. I I assumed that was gonna be he had this album, and he had the my dad had the big cabinet, wooden cabinet um record player where he lifts the whole lid up. It was so fancy. And the speakers were built into the cabinet. Yeah, and he played this album over and over.

SPEAKER_03 54:10

My dad enjoyed George Carlin. Yes. I think my dad saw Andrew Dice Clay in person.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Sounds like something he'd do.

SPEAKER_03 54:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

After dropping out of high school and enlisting in the Air Force, George Carlin began taking radio jobs, eventually attracting the attention of Lenny Bruce, who helped uh get him appearances on the tonight show.

SPEAKER_03 54:32

Can I just interject real quick first before I forget? Yes, my dad did go see Andrew Dice Clay. I do remember. So free nights and weekends. I don't know if that makes you love my dad even more. But that's what he was doing in that picture.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

And he had That's what that guy does. Yeah, and yeah, exactly. And he was sporting the stash when he went to see him, I promise.

SPEAKER_03 54:57

He was only like 10 minutes in his life where he didn't have the stash.

SPEAKER_02 55:01

I don't know what he looks like right now.

SPEAKER_03 55:02

It grew back in 10 minutes. Yeah. He shaved it and it's a I don't know. I haven't seen him today yet, so I don't know what he looks like.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

Seriously, doubt he's not. He's probably got the Fu Manchu. He's usually keeps it. Fu Manchu is my favorite. He usually keeps that. Oh my gosh, I love a Fu Manchu.

SPEAKER_03 55:17

Or a Van Dyke. I don't know. He's got the mustache and it goes all over.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

He does have the Fu Manchu. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:22

Um all right. Sorry, I just wanted to.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Carlin went on to become a popular stand-up comedian, author, and film and television actor. George Dennis Patrick Carlin. Oh, he's like my youngest two middle names. Um, was born May 12th, 1937, in the Bronx, New York. Carlin and his older brother Pat were primarily raised by their mother in Manhattan's Morningside Heights neighborhood. Mary Carlin, a devout Irish Catholic, worked as a secretary to support her children. When George was an infant, she left Carlin's father, Patrick, who was a national advertising manager for the New York Sun. Carlin attended parochial school, and much of his negative religious sentiment stems from his experiences as a Roman Catholic altar boy.

SPEAKER_03 56:10

I was gonna say he was a big atheist. Go atheists.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

Yeah. Go atheists, Al. Yeah. I know that growing up in church is what made me atheist. Yeah, that'll do it. Um, Carlin completed two years of high school before dropping out in the ninth grade. In 1954, at age 17, he enlisted in the U.S. Air Force as a radar technician and was stationed at Shrevenport, Louisiana. Over the next three years, Carlin earned his high school equivalency and moonlighted as a disc jockey at a local radio station. Makes sense. Uh-huh. He would add a great voice for that. Yeah. He also received three court martials and numerous disciplinary punishments, according to his official website.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

Also, no surprise. No.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

After a general discharge in 1957, he took radio jobs in Boston and Fort Worth, Texas. In 1959, Carlin teamed up with Texas newscaster Jack Burns. The pair collaborated on a morning show, uh morning radio show in Fort Worth before relocating to Hollywood, where they attracted the attention of the legendary Lenny Bruce. Oh yeah. Are you singing the REM song now?

SPEAKER_03 57:22

No.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

Okay. But he's not afraid. No. Bruce helped Burns and Carlin secure appearances on the Tonight Show with Jack Parr. Uh and George Carlin ended up making a total of 130 appearances on the Tonight Show.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 57:41

Burns and Carlin eventually split up, and over the next few years, Carlin continued to make numerous appearances on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson as well as 29 appearances on the Merv Griffin Show.

SPEAKER_03 57:51

He got around.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

In the early 1960s, Carlin got his start as a stand-up comic by performing on the Las Vegas circuit and entertaining TV audiences. Carlin enjoyed moderate successes until the mid-70s when he reinvented his image and adopted a less conventional, somewhat vulgar comedy routine. Carlin Scripps scripted monologues began to represent his disillusioned attitude toward the world, in which explored the high sensitive issues of Vietnam, politics, religion, American culture, drugs, the demise of humanity, and the right to free speech. How about that? So crazy. That sounds so familiar. In July 1972, Carlin was arrested for violating obscenity laws in Milwaukee after his infamous routine, seven words which can't say on television. And I do you remember the words?

SPEAKER_03 58:47

Not really. I'm sure I say them all.

SPEAKER_02 58:50

Piss, shit, cunt, cock, sucker, motherfucker, and tits. I've never forgotten. I've heard that album so many times. It's engraved in my brain.

SPEAKER_04 58:59

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 59:01

When a radio station played a recording of Carlin's seven words routine, it sparked a legal case over obscenity regulations. They're just words people get over. I mean, move on. Jesus.org. In 1978, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the government's right to penalize stations that broadcast such material on public airwaves during hours 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. when young people may tune in.

SPEAKER_03 59:24

What? Because they weren't certainly not saying those in.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

There's no other way they would have ever found out if it weren't for those words ever. As a self-professed atheist and avid cocaine user, of course. They go hand in hand. Just kidding. I've never tried cocaine. Um, his adversaries deemed him anti-religious and disrespectful of society. However, the comedian's new material brought him success from the younger counterculture. Carlin illustrated his anti-establishment views by being the first host of the Risque TV show Saturday Night Live on October 11th, 1975. In 1977, Carlin starred in his first HBO comedy special on location, George Carlin at USC. In all, he did 14 such specials, including 2008's It's Bad For You. In 1990, Carlin compiled a multi-cd set that highlighted his work from the 70s titled George Carlin, The Little Dave David Years. The collection included the albums FM and AM, Class Clown, Occupation Fool, Toledo, Window Box, An Evening with Wally Londo, featuring Slazzo, and On the Road. Carlin received two Grammy Awards for FMAM and Jammin in New York, for which he won a Grammy. Carlin published Braindroppings in 1997. The book included his comedic take on life, society, and politics. It spent 18 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list. Throughout his career, Carlin took on a number of comedic roles in films such as 1987's Outrageous Fortune and as Rufus and Mm.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

Be excellent to each other. One of my all-time hands-down favorite movies. Yes. It's I I and I like the sequel. I don't care. I don't like the new one. I saw it. It's horrible.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

But I did it's them though, right? It's still yeah. I didn't watch the new one.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

They did a lot of work. Gotcha. It's a lot of makeup or CGI or something. It's really not. But the I enjoyed the second one with death, where they have to beat death. I of course you love it. Yeah, I just enjoy a movie with death in general. Anyone who's playing the Grim Reaper, it's probably going to be a movie for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:54

We're talking about Bill and Teds in case you all have to figure out.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:56

If you didn't know that, then why are you here?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

He took a more dramatic turn in The Prince of Tides, and I remember seeing The Prince of Tides in 1991. It had Nick Nulty.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:07

Barbish try's hand. Oh my god. Never seen it, never will. So not my thing. You know that. That you know that the director, is it their director? Somebody involved in that movie parks his yacht in Lewis all summer long because the name of the yacht is The Prince of Tides.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:25

I was just down on the docks at Lewis on TV. You might have seen it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:28

Yeah. I think it sits there. Uh, I think it sits there.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:31

I dropped $300 on my daughter and her boyfriend for their birthday dinner. Don't think so. I made them go walk on the docks with me. I would too. All right. So my youngest is bougie. Very don't know where this came from. I don't either. I have no idea, but she is such a brand slut and just bougie. Oh, so we go to this restaurant that she picked out, and it was amazing food, a beautiful atmosphere. The drinks were just to die for. It better be. I got a rick whipped ricotta toast. Were they like made toast? And then like oh god, it was so good. My daughter, we all got burgers. Thank God. That saved me from it being a five million dollar bill. Um, but they had been there before and they love their burgers, so I was like, all right, so we'll try that. So bacon smash burgers, like um, but they came with fries and you could get toppings on your fries. And my daughter got caviar and chives on her fries. It was really good caviar though.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

This is the same kid who couch surf for like four years across the country. She did.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:47

And around here. Like I don't think she actually had a place to live.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

No. So we went Sunday night and did that. We had a really fun time. And then Monday was her actual birthday. Her boyfriend's birthday is this coming weekend. So for her birthday on Monday, he was taking her to King of Pressure Mall.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:05

She already had a list of 12 stores she needed to see. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:09

Was Gucci one of them? Louis Vuitton.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:11

She said she is staying. She said one of her co-workers was like, Girl, you need to go to Louis Vuitton and Gucci. And she was like, No, why would I get one thing when I can get a whole bunch of things? I mean, you're not wrong. Right. And then they went into Philly, into Philadelphia, into the city, and ate at a very bougie restaurant in there that also served caviar. But yeah, I don't know. And her boyfriend now, he drives a Corvette. Last year, an Audi.

unknown 1:04:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:36

Before that, it was something. Oh, BMW. But he also likes repairs things. Like he flips stuff. But yeah. Convertible Corvette. My daughter's like, I like it when the top's down. It's like, oh, I'm sure you do.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:51

I don't know how we got here.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:53

I don't know where she came from.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:54

She wasn't like that before.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:56

She was not. She was always just chill and laid back and cool. Like, nope, nope, nope. That's okay. Happy Billia birthday to my lid. Um, let me find. We used to call her Squiddia.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:12

We did. That's where that kid came.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:14

Oh my god. One time we were on a field trip and I called her Squiddy on the field trip and her friends heard and started laughing. And I was like, oh my god, Lydia, I am so so I just imagine it was like first grade, and I just imagined her being called Squiddia throughout the rest of her school career. But she's also very chill, like she doesn't get embarrassed or offended easily. So, and I don't think they ever called her Squidia, but yes. Squid. All right, let's see. George Carlin. That's who we're talking about. Not Squiddia. He was also featured in Kevin Smith's film Dogma, in which he played Cardinal Glick, uh, a fame seeking religious figure. Um and he was also the voice of the Volkswagen bug or bus in cars. The cart. Yes, he was. Um, in 1990s, he enjoyed success with series television. In 91, he was the voice of the train conductor on Shining Time Station.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

Yes, I remember that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:18

And he narrated Thomas the tank engine and friends through 1998. He also starred as a cab driver in the George Carlin show from 1993 to 95. Don't remember that. I vaguely it sounds familiar, but I can't picture it. Um, in addition to his acting, writing, and recording, Carlin continued to perform about 150 dates a year on the road. That's a lot. That is. When you're doing all that other stuff. In 2004, he placed second behind uh Richard Pryor on Comedy Central's list of top 100 comics of all time. On June 17, 2008, just five days before his death, it was announced that he was being awarded the 11th annual Mark Twain Prize for American Humor. Carlin's first wife, producer Brenda Haasbrook, died in May 1997 from complications of liver cancer. Their 35-year marriage produced a daughter, and he is survived by his second wife. Yep. And now the last one.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

What did he die of? Cancer?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:18

It didn't. His wife died of cancer, his first wife. It doesn't say what he died from.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:25

I'll find out. Also, I looked up um Andrew Dice Clay, it never had any allegations. There were no Gations against Andrew Dice Clay.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:37

I usually do that before I put anybody in a script. I meant to really do it on Kennison.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:43

I was like, I didn't even bother to look at it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

I don't think that was. I mean, he was a womanizer, but heart failure. Okay. It wasn't that long ago either, right? 2008. Jeez. So, yes. Time flies when you're having fun. I'll tell you.

Eddie Murphy From SNL To Movies

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

All right, the final, my all-time favorite comedian from back then, Eddie Murphy. I figured. By the way, I know I mentioned it months ago when I watched it, but if you haven't watched the Netflix special about Eddie Murphy, it is so good. Not you, the audience. I know you don't care to watch it. I don't. Um, Eddie Murphy began doing stand-up comedy as a teenager and later joined the cast of Saturday Night Live. At age 21, Murphy co-starred with Nick Nolte in 48 Hours, and he went on to further box office successes with Trading Places, Beverly Hills Cop, Coming to America, The Nutty Professor, and Shrek. He has continued to star in many movies, including comedies, dramas, and family films. Eddie Reagan Murphy was born on April 3rd, 1961, in Brooklyn, New York. Apparently, they have a thing for New York comedians. Yeah, well. It makes sense. He spent his early years in the projects of Bushwick with his father, Charles, a New York City police officer and amateur comedian. That's a shame that his father was a New York City police officer and had to live in the projects. Right. His mother, Lillian, was a telephone operator, and his brother Charles, who I also love. Loved, he passed away. Do you know his brother Charles? Vaguely. You would know him from the Dave Chappelle show. Yeah, that's what I figured. Yeah. Charlie Murphy. Yes. He was funny too. His parents divorced when he was three. Five years later, his father died, and his mother went into the hospital for an extended period. When Murphy was nine years old, his mother married Vernon Lynch, a foreman at a Briars ice cream factory score.

unknown 1:09:40

Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:41

I wish my mom would have married someone that worked at the Briars Ice Cream Factory.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:45

My mom married someone who worked at the sugar factory.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:48

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

I didn't benefit.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:52

I know. Uh, and the family moved to the primarily African-American suburb of Roosevelt, Long Island. Murphy watched a lot of television growing up and developed a great skill for impressions, doing such characters as Bugs Bunny, uh Bullwinkle, and Sylvester. His mother says, I never talked in my own voice, Murphy later said. Although he was never a dedicated student, Murphy found a great form for his verbal agility in grade school, excelling in the popular game of ranking, trading witty insults with classmates. I'll bet they didn't stand each hand. No. He probably sent kids home crying. Murphy wasn't the only family member to develop an interest in comedy. Older brother Charlie later became a writer and actor for Chappelle's show. Uh, the popular sketch program, starring Dave Chappelle, who is also one of my favorites. He's one too that once says something, and I'm like, oh yeah. Uh Charlie died of leukemia in April 2017. I can't believe that's been that long either. Jeez, time flies when you're having fun. I'll tell you. Upon Charlie's death, Murphy released a statement. Our hearts are heavy with the loss today of our son, brother, father, uncle, and friend Charlie. Charlie filled our family with love and laughter, and there won't be a day that goes by that his presence will not be missed. Hosting a talent show at the Roosevelt Youth Center at age 15, Murphy delighted his young audience with an impersonation of Al Green. This early success ignited a passion for showbiz, and young Eddie began working on his comedy routines after school and performing stand-up at local bars, clubs, and gong shows. His schoolwork suffered, however, and Murphy had to repeat the 10th grade. I think he paid out okay.

unknown 1:11:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:39

Um, by doubling up on classes and attending summer and night school, he graduated with a couple of months, uh, only a couple of months late. Murphy was voted the most popular boy in his graduating class. Well, he was probably the only one if he was a few months late graduate. Valedictorian. Uh responding to the pleas of his mother, Murphy enrolled at Nassau Community College after high school and worked part-time as a shoes shoe store clerk. He continued to perform in local clubs and eventually worked his way into such new New York City venues as the comic strip, billing himself as a discipline of the great comedian Richard Pryor, who everyone idolized back then. Although his raunchy profanity-ridden routines resembled his idols, Murphy stayed away from drinking, smoking, and drugs and would later declare to Barbara Walters, I don't have to sniff cocaine to make me funny. And that is something he's never that is a surprise to me. He has never. That's something I learned in the documentary I watched. Never. Not his thing. Then he was on Saturday Night Live in the 70s. I didn't think you were allowed to feel like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:52

I think you just walked into a room and that cocaine was in the air. I don't think you had a choice.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:59

When Murphy learned that the producers of the popular late-night comedy show Saturday Night Live were seeking a black cast member for the 1980-81 season, he jumped on the opportunity. He auditioned for the part six times and finally earned a place as an extra on the show. Murphy appeared sporadically throughout the season until one fateful night when producers realized they had four minutes of airtime remaining and no material. They pushed Murphy before the camera and told him to do a stand-up routine. His improvised performance was called Masterful by Rolling Stone, and Murphy became one of only two cast members, along with Joe Piscopo, asked to return the next season. Remember Joe Piscopo? I do. He kind of fell away too. Is he still alive? I have no idea. I'll check. Okay. Murphy became Saturday Night Live's strongest comedic presence, creating such memorable characters as Mr. Robinson. Um, an older version of the little rascals character, Bucky. I loved his Bucky. He is still alive. Oh, okay. Oh. All right. Yeah. I love the Bucky character. Yeah. Um, and an illiterate convict and poet named Tyrone Green. He lived in the apartment. He also continued his skillful impersonations, adding Bill Cosby, Muhammad Ali, James Brown, Jerry Lewis, and Stevie Wonder to his repertoire. Murphy received criticism for his satirical characterizations based on black stereotypes. I'm just gonna leave that there. He defended his performances, claiming that his characters were far too absurd and abstract to be taken seriously.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:44

You have to get the joke.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:45

Exactly. That there's a running theme here. Um, despise his important role in the show's history, Murphy distanced himself from SNL for decades after leaving the cast and never appeared as a guest host, partly because of a 1995 joke by then cast member David Spade at the actor's expense. During a Hollywood minute sketch, Spade showed a photo of Murphy and quipped, Look, children, it's a falling star. Make a wish.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:11

Oh, David Spade, not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:15

The comment was reportedly referencing the poor box offers performance of Murphy's film Vampire in Brooklyn, which that is fair. I'm the biggest thing that ever came off that show. The show would have been off the air if I didn't go back on the show. And now you have somebody from the cast making a crack about my career, Murphy said later. And I did the whole neck thing while I read that. He and Spade eventually reconciled, and Murphy returned to the show for 40th and 50th anniversary specials in 2015 and 2025.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:50

I mean, you kind of have to take the joke. Like that's the whole point of the fucking show.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:55

Exactly. They make fun of everybody.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:58

I mean, look what they did to poor Scarlett Johansson.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:01

I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:02

She's such a trooper. She is such a that was that was pretty brutal with her being there.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:08

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:10

Um, by then he had cemented a legacy as a bona fide movie star. In 1982, Murphy received a Grammy nomination for a live album of fresh stand-up material called Eddie Murphy Comedian. The album eventually went gold. With his star power brighter than ever, Murphy decided it was time to give the big screen a try. Later that same year, at the age of 21, Murphy landed his first major motion picture role alongside Nick Nulty in 48 hours. I had no idea he was only 21 in that movie. Like that's he's just a little kid. Yeah. He approached the role with confidence and ingenuity, um, convincing director Walter Hill to adjust some of the dialogue to more genuinely depict a black speaker. His charming and inspired performance as the fast-talking convict stole the film and 48 hours grossed over 5 million in its first week. Murphy followed this success with the 1930s style Farce Trading Places. Um, playing alongside fellow SNL Dan Aykroyd, Murphy Streetwise Billy Ray Valentine becomes the victim, then the victor, of two Wall Street moguls, short-sighted but um Paramount Pictures proceeded to sign the 23-year-old to a $25 million contract for six pictures, which is a lot back then, but can you imagine an actor doing six movies for $25 million now? No, they do they don't even do one movie for that. No. Um Murphy's next film, Beverly Hills Cup, uh, in 1984, hit number nine on the list of all-time box office hits. He played bad boy, good cop, Axel Foley, a role originally slated for Sylvester Stallone. That would not have worked. That's a different direction. That would not have been the same movie. That's a different direction. His performance was a hit with fans and earned him uh the actor or earned him a Golden Globe nomination. Murphy went on to make Beverly Hills Cop 2 in 1987, which received mixed reviews from critics, but major rewards from the box office. Another sequel, Beverly Hills Cop 3, appeared in 1994, and proof of the franchise enduring legacy. The series was revived in 2024 with the direct sequel Beverly Hills Cop Axl F. The latter featured legacy actors such as Murphy and Judge Reinhold, um, alongside new faces, including Joseph Gordon Levitt and Kevin Bacon.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:34

I don't know that I would say those are new faces.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:43

The new one, I can't remember. Another highlight of Murphy's early acting career was the romantic comedy Coming to America in 1988, co-starring Arsenio Hall. In the film, both Murphy and Hall were able to demonstrate their comedic versatility by playing multiple characters. Audiences loved Murphy's performances, and the movie became a box office smash, grossing more than 128 million in the United States. But some of Murphy's other efforts of this period, including The Golden Child, which I like that movie, and his directorial debut, Harlem Knights, were deemed failures by critics and audiences alike. In 1990, Murphy starred in the sequel to 48 Hours, titled Another 48 Hours. The second film did not perform as well as the first, and Murphy decided to take a break from the Hollywood scene.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:32

Heard.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:32

And that's the Gen X stuff of Eddie Murphy. Of course, there's a million things more, but Shrek. The naughty professor. Yeah.

unknown 1:19:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:43

Well, that was fun. That was fun. I had a really good time doing that.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:48

Good. Yeah. That was fun. Thanks.

Delirious Memories And Comedy Tastes

SPEAKER_03 1:19:50

Hi, uh. I was gonna say something and I totally lost it. Menopause brain.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:59

It's because you put your took your piggy tails out.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:01

I know. That was it. My brain was like, no more today. This means we're done. It's bedtime, right? The piggy tails are out. No, I'm just gonna think. I just wasn't, I would I guess I didn't really follow ever really comedians.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:21

I was always into stand-up, but my dad was, so but Eddie Murphy, what was the one before Raw?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:31

Don't know. Shit. Talk amongst yourselves.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:38

Delirious.

unknown 1:20:40

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

Yes. Eddie Murphy's delirious. I would say I was probably about 14 or 15 the first time I watched that. I was spending the night at my friend Carolyn's house.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:50

I was gonna say, I can't imagine that would have been allowed in your house.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:53

And her parents went to bed and we stayed up to watch TV and we watched it, and I must have watched it a thousand times after that. That's the one with the ice cream in and the big brown shark came in the bathtub. I don't know what my issue is.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:10

I don't know what my issue is with comedians. I never really have. Even now, I don't that's funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:15

That's something I never realized about you, but yeah, it's true. I don't. And I like if I'm home and I can't find something to watch, I'll put a stand-up comedian on to see. You know, if they're not funny, I turn them off.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:25

But I mean, I like comedy, don't get me wrong. Right. I don't know what it I don't know. I'm weird. Who knows? It's okay. Who knows what the fuck's wrong with me? The list is too long. Can I tell

The Arby’s Corned Beef Surprise

SPEAKER_03 1:21:40

you what was wrong with me? I forgot in the middle. I remembered what horrible thing happened to me today. And I mean not only that I had a frog leap at me out of nowhere, but Oh, that's not the story? No.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:50

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:51

No, that's not even the worst part of today. The frog leaping at me from the roof of my mail truck. That's very upsetting. Anyhow, was uh well I saw a snake the other day. Huh? That sounds premeditated. It was premeditated. Well, one of my coworkers said that the reptiles are after me. Technically, frogs are an amphibian, but I didn't correct him on that. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I had a snake come after me the other day. I mean, not really. I was in the truck. He was on the road. Yes, he totally can't. And I think he was dead. But anyway, still he could have only been there for one reason. Yeah, and that was to scare me to death. Exactly. Any who's today I got done work early and I was like, oh, I'm so very hungry. I am gonna go to Arby's because there's no Arby's down here, but there is one in Lewis, and I was like, I'm gonna go. And there's only one thing that I will eat at Arby's, and that is a ham and Swiss. And they took the ham and Swiss away for a little while, and then the ham and Swiss is back. So I was like, I really, and then I was like, oh, I don't feel like biting the traffic, blah, blah, blah. But then I was like, no, I do want it. So I take myself to the Arby's because they have the meats, and I get in my line, which there's never a line there, but anyway, I da-da-da. I pull into the parking spot, I open my sandwich, and it looks weird, and it smelled weird, and I was like, what is weird about this sandwich? Like, this doesn't, I don't know about this sandwich. And I was smelling it and I was like, it doesn't, but I ate it because I'm a garbage human being. And you paid for it. And I pay and I'm not going back through the line. No, I'm not going in and being like, something's wrong with this because I couldn't pinpoint what was wrong with it until I had about four bites left. Because the whole time I'm eating it, I'm very disappointed because I want a ham and Swiss and something is clearly off about this ham and Swiss. And trust me, I can tell the difference between ham brands. Yeah, that's how crazy I am. Yeah. Like I can tell. I can tell. I know when it's hunts and when it's hinds. Anyway, I finally figured out what the problem was. Do you want to know what the problem was? It was roast beef. No. Worse. It was corned beef. Oh. Because it did look like ham, and that's what was throwing me off. I was like, it looks like ham though. I would have puked. I don't mind corned beef. It wasn't the sandwich I expected. So and you didn't get food poisoning. I mean, it was literally like three and a half hours ago. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:32

Oh, it takes six hours for that to kick.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:34

Yeah. So I don't know. I could die, but I'm 99% sure it was corned beef. Oh my god, that's disgusting. I didn't even know they had corned beef, but I guess they do because they probably have Rubens. And then, well, then I wasn't sure. Did I order wrong? Because I don't go to Arby's very often. So then I was like, I ordered a number 13. Is a number 13 like not what I wanted? Like, did I order incorrectly?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:57

I know. I always doubt myself. Too that happened to me. I always blame myself over. Oh, I order chicken cheesesteak from my favorite place. Like typically every payday, I order this um a chicken cheesesteak and fries from this place. And I got a beef, which is fine. I like beef, but I love their chicken cheesesteaks.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:17

That's what I'm saying. And I was like, I must have hit the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:20

I didn't even go back and check. I just assumed it was my fault.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:23

I was fully prepared for a ham and Swiss sandwich. And what I got was a corned beef and Swiss. Or two different things. Yes. But very similar if they come from Arby's. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that is true. Yeah. It's not quality ham and it's not quality corned beef.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:39

So Arby's is the only roast beef that I will eat.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:42

I don't like beef. I probably would have gone in if it was roast beef and been like, I don't know if I fuck this up because I don't come to Arby's very often. But so you literally couldn't have even eaten roast beef, no. I can't eat roast beef sandwiches.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:55

I can't eat anything roast beef, but theirs. It's weird. It's so good. Anyway. But it depends on if they cut it right. Some stores cut it really thin, which is what I like, and some cut it too thick, and then I don't like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:07

Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. I don't mind corned beef. Wasn't what I was prepared for. It's not what I was prepared to eat.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:16

So now I'm sad. Same here.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:18

I don't mind a beef cheesesteak.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:20

It's just what I was prepared for. Wasn't what I was prepared for. All right. Well,

Final Thanks And Where To Reach Us

SPEAKER_03 1:26:25

everybody, thanks for listening. Yes, thanks for humoring me about my dead eagle and my corned beef sandwich. That was not ham. It's not even the same animal. Um thanks for listening. Thank you. You can find us on all the socials. You uh like whatever pod. Uh you can go to our website, www.likewhateverpod.com. You can find us wherever you find podcasts. You can you can send us an email about how corned beef is not as good as ham when you're expecting ham and it is not corned beef. Or you can tell me that you would be happy with corned beef. I don't know what your deal is, or not. No, you can send us an email about all that to like whatever pod at gmail.com or don't like whatever. Whatever. Bye.